The description for this June 4th Insight Timer live event:
We all need discernment, but how? Let’s look at some ways to cultivate, develop, train and progress discernment. While there’s much to discernment, one key: “. . . one listening well gains discernment” ~from Āṭavaka’s Questions
What is your intent and motivation to address discernment itself? I ask again at end to see if these have changed any. I feel mine are mostly in-line with what the Buddha recommends and also in order to see and address manipulation
I read the entire Āḷavaka Sutta (SN 10:12) then focus mainly on this one question and answer from it:
How does one gain discernment?
from the Āḷavaka Sutta (SN 10:12)
Convinced of the arhats’ Dharma for attaining unbinding,—heedful, observant—one listening well gains discernment
I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying near Āḷavī in the haunt of the Āḷavaka yakkha. Then the Āḷavaka yakkha went to the Blessed One and on arrival said to him: “Get out, contemplative!”
(Saying,) “All right, my friend,” the Blessed One went out.
“Come in, contemplative!”
(Saying,) “All right, my friend,” the Blessed One went in.
A second time… A third time, the Āḷavaka yakkha said to the Blessed One, “Get out, contemplative!”
(Saying,) “All right, my friend,” the Blessed One went out.
“Come in, contemplative!”
(Saying,) “All right, my friend,” the Blessed One went in.
Then a fourth time, the Āḷavaka yakkha said to the Blessed One, “Get out, contemplative!”
“I won’t go out, my friend. Do what you have to do.”
“I will ask you a question, contemplative. If you can’t answer me, I will possess your mind or rip open your heart or, grabbing you by the feet, hurl you across the Ganges.”
“My friend, I see no one in the cosmos with its devas, Māras & Brahmās, its contemplatives & brahmans, its royalty & commonfolk, who could possess my mind or rip open my heart or, grabbing me by the feet, hurl me across the Ganges. But nevertheless, ask me what you wish.”
Āḷavaka:
“What is a person’s highest wealth?
What, when well-practiced, brings bliss?
What is the highest of savors?
Living in what way is one’s life called the best?”
The Buddha:
“Conviction is a person’s highest wealth.
Dhamma, when well-practiced, brings bliss.
Truth is the highest of savors.1
Living with discernment, one’s life is called best.”
Āḷavaka:
“How does one cross over the flood?
How [does one] cross over the sea?
How does one overcome suffering & stress?
How is a person purified?”
The Buddha:
“Through conviction one crosses over the flood.
Through heedfulness, the sea.
Through persistence one overcomes suffering & stress.
Through discernment a person is purified.”
Āḷavaka:
“How does one gain discernment?
How does one find wealth?
How does one attain honor?
How bind friends to oneself?
Passing from this world to the next world, how does one not grieve?”
The Buddha:
“Convinced of the arahants’ Dhamma for attaining unbinding, —heedful, observant— one listening well gains discernment. Doing what’s fitting, enduring burdens, one with initiative finds wealth. Through truth one attains honor. Giving binds friends to oneself. Endowed with these four qualities, — truth, self-control, stamina, relinquishment — a householder of conviction, on passing away, doesn’t grieve.
Now, go ask others, common brahmans & contemplatives, if anything better than truth, self-control, stamina, & relinquishment here can be found.”
Āḷavaka:
“How could I go ask
common brahmans & contemplatives?—
now that today I understand
what benefits
the next life.
It was truly for my well-being
that the Awakened One came
to stay in Āḷavī.
Today I understand
where what is given
bears great fruit.
I’ll wander from village to village,
town to town,
paying homage to the Self-awakened One
& the true rightness of the Dhamma.”
NOTE
1. This is apparently a reference to the concept of “savor” (rasa) in Indian aesthetic theory. For more on this topic, see the Introduction to Dhammapada: A Translation.
See also: AN 3:48; AN 4:62; AN 8:54; Dhp 354
To the Āḷavaka Yakkha
Āḷavaka Sutta (SN 10:12)
While this Sutta tailors the following three discernment teachings — amongst other things — to a demon, there is much within it to take heed of for all of us:
- Best way to live
- Purification
- How to gain discernment

































