Being And Living As Better Beautiful Humans: In Conversation With David Hults

Despite an ambulance, trash truck and airplanes this still very listenable podcast recorded July 14th joins an in real life caffeinated conversation already underway between David Hults and I about a wide variety of topics including:

• nature
• environment
• fear
• destruction
• separation
• unity
• negativity bias
• stewardship
• self-responsibility
• power
• trauma
• pain
• four great elements (in the body)
• aether
• sacred geometry
• architecture
• Buckminster Fuller
• fourth phase of water
• expanding water to move it
• photonic nature of light
• (the rapidly arising and passing) ultimate materiality
• mentality
• Abhidhamma
• perception
• (without) Masters
• not clinging to (teaching) systems
• (3D) manifestation
• holographic waveforms
• (changing nature of) consciousness
• neuroscience
• urging science to use concentration and consciousness (in double blind experiments) in addition to instruments
• quantum (everything)
• time crystals
• two truths
• the requirement of seeing and knowing truth / reality for oneself
• comparing and contrasting perception and “this is my truth”

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Question
What some say is the truth,
Others say is false.
So they argue, disagreeing;
Why don’t the ascetics teach one truth?

Buddha
Indeed the truth is one, there’s not another,
about this the One who Knows
does not dispute with another,
but the Samaṇas proclaim their varied “truths”
and so they speak not in the same way.

Why do they speak such varied truths,
these so-called experts disputatious—
Are there really many and various truths
Or do they just rehearse their logic?

Buddha
Indeed, there are not many and varied truths
differing from perception of the ever-true in the world;
but they work upon their views with logic:
“Truth! Falsehood!” So they speak in dualities.

Based on what is seen, heard,
On precepts and vows, or what is cognized,
They look down on others.
Convinced of their own theories,
pleased with themselves,
They say, “My opponent is a fool, no expert.”

They consider themselves expert for the same reasons
That they despise their opponent as a fool.
Calling themselves experts, they despise the other,
Yet they speak the very same way.

And since perfected in some extreme view,
puffed with pride and maddened by conceit,
he anoints himself as though the master-mind,
likewise thinking his view’s perfected too.

If their opponent says they are deficient,
They too are of deficient understanding.
But if they are wise and knowledgeable,
Then there are no fools among the ascetics.

“Anyone who teaches a doctrine other than this,
Has fallen short of purity and perfection.”
This is what followers of other paths say,
Passionately defending their very different views.

“Here alone is purity,” so they say,
“There is no purity in the teachings of others.”
This is what followers of other paths strongly assert,
Each entrenched in their own different path.

Strongly asserting their own path,
What opponent would they take to be a fool?
They would only bring trouble on themselves
By calling an opponent a fool of impure teachings.

Convinced of their own theories,
Comparing others to oneself,
They get into more disputes with the world.
But by leaving behind all theories,
They don’t have any problems with the world.

Despite dropping the recording device, airplanes, an ambulance and trash truck, the recording is still very listenable

Selection from the Cūlaviyūha Sutta — Smaller Discourse on Quarreling from Sutta Nipāta 4.12

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• living in a story about reality instead of living in reality itself
• sovereignty
• not condemning others for their belief systems
• actions matter
• acceptance
• thinking for yourself
• followers
• non-harming
• “if everyone was doing what I was doing what would the world look like”
• stress / suffering and its end
• dignity
• worthiness
• (self-)love
• right lifestyle
• honesty
• mindfulness:
  • balancing factor
  • creates space
  • responding instead of reacting
  • ability to linger on an object/topic
  • greater choices seen and made
  • better discernment
• “know thy self”
• orgonite
• tensor rings
• harmonization devices
• transmuting negativity

• not taking things personally
• everything in relationship
• community building:
  • attracting beings of similar affinity
  • everyone already being in community
  • identifying current communities and envisioning and planning ideal communities for ourselves, those closest to us, on up to larger levels while respecting each other’s sovereignty and those choosing segregation while allowing equal opportunity to do so and still maintain interconnectedness
  • trust
  • faith
  • risk management
  • voluntary contributions based on skill sets
  • allotting more money to community than war
  • non-aggression principle
• non-harm
• David’s withdraw from signing up for military
• military industrial complex and intel tactics
• trying to find non-violent media
• black ops
• black budgets
• accusations of making stuff up based on movies
• pentagon and intel agencies consulting on movies
• environmental, societal, psychological, energetic impact of de-littering spaces
• clearing work

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David’s site AlternativeLiveGuide.com:

Build a Better World Today

Past chats with David:

Life Force, Art, Technology and (Digging) Crystals | In Conversation with David Hults (Part 1)

Energy, Consciousness, Psychology and Inner Work | In Conversation with David Hults (Part 2)

Some of David’s orgonite and resonance art:

Orgonite-like Resonance Art To Support Mastery Of The Four Elements

Alchemical, Transmutative, And Transformational Orgonite

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The raw unedited YouTube transcription of this podcast:

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we were talking about nature and how we kind of misunderstand it on the planet

Intro

yes and well it’s cool to just jump into the middle of the conversation here um

this is josh dipple and david holtz chatting about life here and it’s just

for the record uh timekeeping it’s july 14 2022.

and we were just talking about nature and my take on a lot of the environmental degradation and

The unconscious response to nature

destruction is maybe consider that it’s an unconscious response from man being

terrified of nature and so they see that it’s all out of control they can’t really control it and uh it’s such a

huge power that and if they’re not conscious of that to kind of retaliate by destroying the

environment to try to want to conquer nature and control it

and since the level of consciousness is not there perhaps they just destroy it because they don’t know how to control

it or work with it in harmony right yeah and it was also saying that usually though nature will allow us our

Living within nature

little areas to so where it won’t predominate it has to give us a space to

live within it as well so we can have higher levels of control with

nature when we’re a lot of the space that we have for it right yeah so the gardening and the landscaping things

like that right caretaking the woods and whatnot but it’s when we not conscious of um that nature is like

an uncontrollable force that that man is you know as powerful as man is that uh nature you know

it will be here long after if man will die out from this planet nature will you know more likely than not keep going it

seems that way right it does come and go so you know you make a really interesting point about why we uh

Why we destroy nature

why we humans cause such destruction and i think uh at the root of it it i really

uh resonate with everything you were saying because i think that it is a natural progression for us to

having if we’re scared of the nature then we will have this reaction to try

to control it or change it or what have you but i think that there’s a root

misunderstanding at the at the base of all of it and that’s that we’re separate yes and i think that this

misunderstanding is uh it affects us in so many different ways in our civilization and the groups that we form

and the purposes of what we do on a daily basis and uh this can this

conversation this separation can extrapolate about to all of our issues in the world i feel

but at the crux i think that we’re scared of nature because we don’t see ourselves as one with it and and if the

animal if the fish in the water doesn’t know that it and the water are together and realizes that

it’s in the water then it’s going to be scared of the water even though it’s breathing water right and it just to use

an imagery um i feel that one of the greatest things that i’ve ever been given is my boy scout training and my

outdoors training and in my gardening training same because uh first it gave me don’t get me wrong i’m still a little

edgy in the middle of the woods no matter whether it’s day or night because i’m a creature in another creature’s

environment and especially like swimming in deep water i know there’s bigger things than i am and

you know only a few of them eat humans that i probably aren’t anywhere near me but that that fear

in the back of the boogey man right that can that can eat you it’s always going to affect me however it doesn’t make me

want to destroy the forest or destroy the river it’s just fear of a bigger animal that’s that’s prudent caution yes

Being caretakers of the planet

i think that uh i think if we you know you mentioned the gardening and and the beneficial things that we can

interact with nature but if we just take this idea that we’re not separate from it then it leads us back to the idea of

being caretakers of the planet and the animals and so then most people are going to be like well that’s talking

about the garden of eden i feel that there’s so many misconceptions propagated by books and people that have

been leaders over times i don’t think that any of that like

trying to judge that is not my place it’s it takes the conversation in the wrong way i do feel that that perhaps

was the way of that time and now we’re coming back into a different way but first and foremost i think that

the idea that we ever stopped being

caretakers of the garden of eden is is a huge demarcation from our truth because

we never did somebody just told us that we were and and i feel that even if we do

want to follow the apple and the talking snake and and the idea that we got cast

out because we learned something um and in that mythology i feel that it’s

Being caretakers of ourselves

still we that’s not the end of the story and

that one of the true things like people talk about being saved or finding christ and finding the path to enlightenment

through buddhism and stuff i really think that the enlightenment that we have the privilege as humans in the 21st

century to engage is that we are on earth as caretakers of

not just the planet but ourselves and our fellows everybody and it’s not too

late it’s not over and done we can make the world that we think is beneficial

you know yes and that’s self-responsibility too right it’s a huge it’s it’s um

it’s really empowering though people think of it more of a as a chore but it’s really really empowering it’s kind

of a chore it is a chore right right yeah but it has to be done right because we can’t take care of anything else if

we can’t take care of ourselves first that’s what i feel and there’s so many points to pick up there uh one of the

Safety in the wilderness

the ones that i wanted to mention was you know this thing about happy in the wilderness safety in the wilderness you

know that served us well for a long time that we were on alerts

in the wilderness because there were life-threatening creatures that could come out and uh and take our life right

um but now uh actually they’ll still serve us well if we’re in the wilderness and there’s

actually real predators there well then of course that makes uh sense to do how i guess the downside to that is what

they say in psychology is now that that hasn’t gone away but now we’re getting triggered our flight and flight is

getting triggered by text messages and you know just eating yeah

all these different yeah so there’s not really this immediate physical threat but our body is still being triggered

like that right the other thing is trauma i think that another key part is

that because you know just being alive in a human body today we’ve all experienced some kind of trauma and so

when that hasn’t been healed or is recognized then it’s this victim victimizer cycle where we feel have

we’ve been victimized so then we turn around and then become the victimizer and sometimes that can play out in our

environment lack of consciousness just trashing things or not just being in a space where things are so overwhelming

that that’s the last thing you know the amount of consciousness even isn’t even there for a lot of people because

they’re seeped in such a healing journey they don’t even realize they’re on you know so that that’s like the last

thing they would even be conscious of maybe you know it was just whatever happens in their environment you know

they’re going through so much pain to begin with right you know uh so that’s why self healing and self nurturing is

like at the top so when we can heal ourselves and take care of ourselves well then that just trickles down to everything and everything around us and

Selfhealing

that’s right we’re not separate from nature either and there’s this buddhist um teaching thing too or at least modern

buddhist teachers anyway um that this is a borrowed body right okay and i i look

at it as kind of a gift though but it’s basically these four elements of you know earth water fire and uh wind with

you know and then when this with time to the body to pass on well then it goes back to the earth and uh you know things

will grow out of it and it’ll just join the you know the cycle of earth because that the body you know came from earth

we can’t really own it because you know we can’t once it’s gone it’ll just go back to the earth right

i think so that we can’t be separate from earth in that sense at least with the physical body right and and i i really feel that that

awareness of the elements the in in us in everything the earth air water and

fire is uh a really good simplistic

The Elements

non-denominational non-organizational concept it is just uh to realize that i am all these elements

at once yes mostly water yeah that’s right and and then what but i really

have over the years ascribed to the idea of five elements and not just because of

that really cool movie ah the chinese system is there’s a five element chinese system and it’s the ether the ether is a

word that is used to describe the unseen unfl like interconnecting everything and

technically the ether like if you really study so many different people’s perspective of ether

in a way the ether can be the original element and an over all-encompassing

element that all the four others spin out of as they descend into three dimensions at the same time it doesn’t

stop existing as a partner to all four and what’s fascinating now is if you

take the four and make it five then that really factors into a lot of different sacred geometry thoughts that uh

that people have had over time because you have the pentagram and the five-pointed star and then the inverted

fi like the just all the different shapes that five points can make beyond four

and what’s interesting also is when you reach into construction and actually physically creating a building if you

make five points it allows you to create five points on a base it allows you to

create an incredible variety of structures in the air because of the engineering potential of that base

whereas four is very limited because it can get knocked either which way and i mean think of a tall building right if

it has four corners you’re gonna have to sink that really hard into the ground for it to go not to do this if it has

five corners which they don’t really build that way uh but if you do see a building with five points on its base

pentagon even even if it’s just like a strut or something that comes down that building is far less likely to have

a physical motion in the upper structure just because which which is wild that people have

been implementing this kind of stuff in their building traditions for thousands of years and we don’t really see it

anymore unless unless our eyes are tuned to it yeah and that reminds me of the buckminster fuller dome too which uses

The Hexagon

the next level of like he takes it to six yeah right is that what it is it’s six and it’s even more stable and less

material that needed involved by using the hexagon which and this is

talk about a fascinating deep dive that we’re gonna go on the hexagon and the six points really starts to make up how

like if we if we understand sacred geometry going from zero nothing to a

single point a line a triangle and then the triangle becomes a square and evolves through all the different things

buckminster fuller hit the six and realized the potential of the hexagon for construction the hexagon is also the

oxygen particle and like the oxygen molecule which is made up of uh

what h2o right but what’s interesting is when this is where the new subject of

what of the new study of water has taken humanity uh so i forget the gentleman’s

fourth phase of water oh emoto here no emoto started he did those wonderful studies that everybody many people are

familiar with how water can take the emotions and and stuff like that he did a lot of other studies that aren’t

really published uh a great deal and they had to do with the different phases of water which you were getting into i’m

not uh quite fully informed on all that except for that it is and i know the

water in my body can react to other things outside of myself but more importantly what they have started to

what some scientists have realized and are starting to propagate like how this matters in the world is that when one

water atom molecule is next to a another water molecule h2o is uh like a

three pronged two hydrogen one oxygen right well when they get together the

way they connect it becomes a hexagon because of the way they borrow each other’s molecules and so it’s actually

like h2o2 when you look at the way these molecules interact except

the division line blurs in the molecules because they before a net so this is uh

one of the most intriguing studies i’ve seen they uh they talk it and i think this might be the fourth phase of water

that you’re mentioning how it’s more of a gel kind of concept have you seen the uh examples where they thread the water

bridge between beakers no oh wait it might have yeah just go ahead and illustrate it though so essentially we

know that water sits in a beaker and they did something with resonance to make it grow like to make the water

expand in volume a little bit ever so slightly we’re talking millimeters of space or even micron

microns in space right they measure it but then they had two flasks next to each other with a small space in between

definite space and they got the water to crawl up the wall like to brim and then

bridge over to the other container and flow into it how do they do that though

i’ll have to go back and find these make sense oh yeah i think it is that fourth phase of water so what’s interesting in

my opinion uh and all of this is theory just like relativity and just

like most of science yeah just like most of science it’s all theory

what’s fascinating is that if we understand if we take into the concept of ascension and the whole planetary

system the space-time sector everything is moving into a higher vibrational more photonic state of being because of the

more photonic state of space that we’re in right we

all of us all the nature all the planet are evolving now what is evolution

darwin said it goes like this and darwin is just a scientist with a theory there’s many other people who have

thoughts about what evolution is how things may have not evolved from certain

things and i will maintain that if we allow for extraterrestrial off-world interaction in our past it solves so

many mysteries throughout everything throughout the megalithic structures throughout the concepts of religion and

why it goes this or that what’s cool is it doesn’t erase the concept of god as the supreme creator it just changes the

idea of what god is and and reveals that god may be somebody else that did

something else and what we consider natural evolution is actually manipulated not in a bad way it’s just

it has been manipulated from its normal course that who knows what would have happened if it wasn’t manipulated

because that’s way outside of our pay grade yeah there’s there’s just so many

The Four Elements

different systems and theories on this it’s just like you can go in a thousand directions from here on that but i

wanted to pick up on the the four elements thing and this is um this is something that we can experience in our

body too because the way that uh it’s it’s from my understanding and i’m just kind of

getting into these teachings with meditation around the four elements that okay so earth element has three things

it has solidity so you just tune in to where you can feel solidity in your body then um

Earth Element

let’s see roughness or smoothness so if there’s areas that you can sense

that or just seem rough or smooth and then the other one is um did i say

hard no so like how hard and soft okay so those like in your tissue yeah any any

kind of perception we could have of anything in our body what you know whatever whatever it may be so if you

just kind of go through the body with the awareness and so sensing those three things that’s kind of the because earth

elements i guess one of the more complicated ones because of all the different compounds just look at all the different you know scientific elements

we have on the elemental table a whole period yeah you just look up a pick up a rock and a lot of it has all these

different constituents in it right made up of all these different chemicals and stuff so that’s the one of the more

complex ones but then you get into water and the basic properties of that are um

it’s well there’s one that’s not talked about as much as dissolving right you can dissolve salts in water but it’s

also a congealing cohesiveness so if you’re thinking about making bread you know things are

cohesive cohesing together you add water to flour and it sticks it together yeah

fire is really simple it’s the um temperature so if there’s a cool area in the body at least this is for me or a

hot area in the body so the variation of temperature in the body um so that one’s easy uh seems a little bit more obvious

to discern especially when you hear people talk about oh it’s cold in this room or oh it’s too hot out here you know that’s the fire element uh just

noticing that in the body and the air is either movement some people say are

pressure like if you’re breathing in your lungs especially on the in-breath when you feel pressure but also support

so i i’m not 100 clear on the support element of air uh it might be just kind

of the nourishment that it brings in or anywhere that you just feel supported in the body like um um there’s also space

too like the yeah the nose cavity the space in there and i think some of the tibetan systems with the elements they

add in an extra one space like there can’t be any objects without a space so it’s not really it’s in but then

some systems do consciousness as an element not like but they call it the four great elements so that seems to be

you know every in the form world won’t roll the farm it’s always going to be some kind of four element even if it’s

in the subtle matter layers you know in the inner worlds or whatnot yeah so how do you uh we you mentioned

identifying these things in the body and how like if you for instance are experiencing uh in an in powered fire

element in your body and you become very hot like how would we work with that

and do you know how we would work with that in order to perhaps self-regulate our temperature it’s a really good

question and i would just uh i’m just going to give guesses at this point because i haven’t done an in-depth study

on this i want to say first off there is a systematic meditation method on the four elements that’s given um in certain

traditions so i before you kind of listen to me i would suggest whoever’s listening to this to to check those out

first and i will refer you to someone i’ve worked with before beth upton and she’s been trained in the

side out tradition and one of the things is he teaches a systematic method of meditating with the four

elements and it involves a little bit of what i said but there’s a certain order and a certain way and a certain sign

post for going on to the next element and then if i’m getting this right then eventually combining all the elements at

once and it’s this onward leading progression to where it builds concentration but also will get to see

this thing called ultimate materiality with your own eyes and uh they talk about um eventually being able to see

the body as a transparent like ice block okay and then going into further seeing

these sub these are particles called uh kalapas they call that okay and they said the concentration can get to a

point where you can discern these individual particles and then not only that you’ll be able to discern

the individual uh features i guess within the kalapas so

and then there’s like at least uh i forget how many there are in each one but um

uh from what i gather there’s actually in all the kalapas there’s the four

Kalapas

elements themselves so these subatomic particles that are rising and passing away so very quickly that most people

will never be able without intensive concentration practice will never be even able to discern one arising and

passing but there’s some the concentration level supposedly that is so um profound and attuned that not only

can they discern their rising and passing you know so many of these every second but then they can each individual

one they can discern the the elemental makeup you know the earth wind fire water within each kalapa but

there’s also other things within them i now i i’m not 100 on this but i think some of the other ones are like um color

is one of them and uh there’s there’s several other ones yeah but and so so what they’re saying is when there’s also

mentality too but if if you discern supposedly ultimate materiality you’ll just see that everything is just

grouping of kalapas from what i gather and there is no so like this this and i

could be totally wrong here but this this what we perceive as a human in front of us human body is kind of not

the ultimate it’s kind of like our perception is filling in the gaps are creating it right but if you could see

the ultimate material it’d just be these particles some these uh kalapas arising and passing like so many so long and

then yeah it’s just it’s so profound so now to bring it back to your question actually i know you want to say you’re

you look like you really want to say something so i’ll give you that and then come back to your question there

short answer but i want to give to this perspective later is the short answer is if you want to do kind of more practical

things for health maybe the five element system would be better yeah but i’ll address it maybe for my guess work after

you talk here so there’s i love that uh you just mentioned all of these

things because this is some very high science and high as in like people have been studying

this ever since the dawn of civilization way back whenever that started people

have been analyzing this in so many different ways people producing practicing

humans are amazing and we can relate to this reality in so many different ways

we can adapt we can grow we can change but we are magic in the fact that we

have consciousness now what’s fascinating about everything that you just said and i’m going to start to tie in a wide

variety of theories that i have really brought to my own understanding because one of my

one of the things that has been repeatedly arising in my life over time

and throughout my whole lifetime is i cannot follow a master i cannot follow a

specific teaching and i can try and you should but i can’t line dance either like you see me in a wedding

i’ll add like five extra steps in between the boot scooting book it’s annoying to my wife and all of my

friends but it’s just me i dance to my own drummer for real yes um and just as many people appreciate it

yeah and and i’m told that people appreciate it it’s frustrating to me because like buddhism

is a really beautiful thing i cannot be confined by any of these ways of thought because i

see i see the way of thought i understand i practice the way i thought and i’m like but then it goes up here so

you were telling me about the the idea of particulate matter called kalapas

that the collapse and atoms and molecules and things like that those are different but it’s actually all part of

the same thing so we’re just using different reference terms to describe the same thing possibly that’s a good

question i don’t know and then we get into other systems like this they talk about holographic or holographic units

and consciousness units and so how to cross these systems and cross-reference and see what’s what so it that actually

works really well with what i’m about to say because if

Multidimensionality

not if um in the series in the concept of

multi-dimensionality and not the idea of a multiverse that’s a different concept multi-dimensionality being the first

second third fourth fifth sixth seventh etc dimensions all working at the same time all in the same place all present

collaborating to exist in 3d reality because this 3d is

where it happens where the physicality can make itself manifest everything else is manifest in different ways in its own

dimension that 3d exists in in 3d but it’s above and around and in 3d so if we

have these rising and falling kalapas coming in and out of existence this actually supports

the idea that we live in a holographic wave form so if everything in existence

period is it comes into particular matter in three dimensions but it’s not necessarily here

the whole time and like we see we see 3d decay like plants rising and dying

people rising and dying things even thoughts in the mind constantly all day long we are yeah the mind the thoughts

are great rising and passing up rising and passing so if we can and we see it in some movies but if we

can perhaps perceive that every single instant there is a rising and falling of

the collapse field that is made up of these particles that have all those

elements in involved the idea that consciousness is kind of like the steady

thing in that is quite fascinating because everything else changes but the consciousness

exists it does and i would say though that it changes too sure because you

know if um because i lose consciousness at night why can’t i say that i want to be conscious conscious all the time you

know but do you lose consciousness well or do you want to change it changes sleep well yeah it goes to sleep but i

don’t have control over the amount of you know it’s like if i if you know and i’ve noticed states of consciousness

will change throughout the day too also if you take an altering substance it will change too and i can’t control

what happens then right to the degree so yes yes the consciousness is a thing but

i i feel that it too rises and passes away you know um but it is fascinating and uh

it’s also so what i was talking about with the kalapa is this is an abi dhamma this is the advanced buddhist psychology

and in some buddhist circles it’s controversial too but and uh i won’t go into that now but

and so we get to the consciousness side of it and that’s the mentality so they talk about discerning

ultimate materiality with your in your own experience so this also has to be verified by yourself

here and now and otherwise it’s just theory like to me it’s just theory right now because i’m not at that level of concentration

to be able to discern that but then you get into ultimate mentality and that’s where you get into all the different

variations of consciousness all the different mental factors it’s all laid out like this too and the neuroscience

is just now catching on to some of this stuff and i talk people that are involved in neuroscience i say go check out the abu dhabi this stuff has all

been written and recorded and you know verified in a lot of people’s experience like thousands and thousands of years

ago um so it is really fascinating and but it all has to uh science really

won’t unless they have an instrument to measure it it’s really it’s kind of off the table but that’s the great thing

about quantum science so they’re that that doesn’t necessarily apply to quantum science and theoretical physics

right so there’s a lot of again they’re theories so this so i feel one of the biggest

helps to science would be if they developed a concentration practice where they’re able to see and know these using

their own mind and experience as an instrument now you can’t you won’t be verified in the same way as traditional

science however you could if you do controlled you know double-blind studies with you know

giving investigation for one scientist to look into this with their own abilities and then cross-reference it double blindly with you know other

experiencers and other experiments then you know it seems to have some scientific validity through the scientific method and you mentioned a

really interesting thing here about that that brings up a big conflict in our world

there is what people think is allowed what people think is condoned what people think is

real and then there’s the reality is that remote viewing clairvoyance and

astral projection have been used by science and have been studied by science for a lot longer than you and i have

been alive in this carnation especially in russia and the cia has documented this project stargate all that stuff

it’s it’s public knowledge now the uh the the amount of remote viewing the amount of telepathic

Time Crystals

study the amount of psychic phenomenon that had been analyzed by the scientists

and the military industrial intelligence

if we consider world war ii as a very high tech point

in the general civilization which is fascinating how a certain group of the

planet a certain group across the planet are still held at that kind of level of

mentality of technical progression even though we’ve now just launched into quantum

everything beyond that uh a lot of people still think that we only live

with technology like the tv’s gotten better the radio’s gotten better we have hd we have better movies we can do

computer graphics but it’s not that they have like i haven’t studied a lot of quantum

computing because it gets quantum physics i can grasp quantum computing gets buck wild because and then time

crystals which is a new thing that i’m very quiet about because uh i have a different personal experience than the

information that’s told on the in the publications and stuff with the concept of time crystals so it comes back down

to what you said we have to self-verify now so you don’t know it for yourself

seeing it and knowing it for yourself may not ever be able to be proved because you

you have this experience and and what’s what i think i’m trying to do with my

life and i see many people in the concept of sovereignty trying to know ourselves we have to realize that it is

not absolute what that person says over there or that group says over there is not absolute

now there are agreements such as i live in the united states of america i was born here i’m a citizen i have a

contract with them because consensus is reality right consensus well this is

this is not a consent of mine it is a factual commitment that i made because of where

i showed up on the planet right the other consensus and what the things your parents did with the birth certificate

and that’s a whole nother area but real quick a brief distinction the two truths in buddhism so there is an ultimate

truth but everything else we’re talking about here is uh other than ultimate truth right it doesn’t mean it’s not

true it’s just there’s an ultimate truth that as far as i know really can’t be talked about are you can’t just tell

somebody the ultimate truth right and then get back to your netflix shows right but you know so there’s uh some

people call it conventional truth right so there’s that so it’s that distinction so we’re just talking about other than

ultimate truth here yeah i’m glad that you mentioned very important that you mentioned this because uh i find that

it’s interesting that we’re at 33 minutes into the conversation well because this is touching masters

this is touching on a super important concept that that ultimate uh what did

you call it ultimate reality ultimate reality versus conventional reality or ultimate truth versus truth conventional

Ultimate Reality

truth i and others who i’ve talked with uh feel like we know the truth and a

cosmic thing and for me uh it’s kind of like a chime like a resonance like and

and it’s sometimes it’s like a lie detector when someone’s talking but it’s more like looking at the information set

understanding the way the world’s working and it’s like oh that’s fishy oh that’s that’s right on and and it can be

as simple as that but i think what it comes down to is that sometimes we touch into that

overall absolute cosmic truth cosmic reality and

we understand it yeah we understand it more in our heart and like the other glands not our brain

not our thinking thing we understand it in our hands and our feet and our gut and and it’s it’s like our gut instinct

as in just a finite thing therefore i think that this supports the idea that

our own perspective our own perception and our own self-analysis in any given

moment is more valid than any teaching that anyone could ever give you now you

can correlate teachings that people have imparted to us or whatever information set is given to us but how many times

have you sat in a room with a teacher up there and you listen to him and you’re like that doesn’t really make sense

because of these other things that i know and and sometimes when you think about it you’re like is this wrong oh

maybe i didn’t understand or maybe this other information is not the whole thing

absolutely and that’s where we come back to like the theory of stuff yep um but i think it’s it’s important

because we’ve touched on this idea of truth and we live in a world right now where truth is very at object uh like

people manufacture the truth and people repeat the truth their truth over and over and over again that’s exactly other

people to get to to get other people to do what they want them to do yes believe what they want that’s programming that’s not

true programming yes that’s called programming so what’s fascinating is uh i’m gonna i’m gonna steer this whole

conversation this metaphysical quantum conversation into community development yes i wanna pick up on truth though

before we do that yeah um so this is why it’s uh for most of my journey too yes no that’s why i respect the historical

buddhist so much because he says you know here’s some stuff i learned but you have to see you know this for yourself you know

this you can’t just take my word for it he encouraged people to uh ask questions and you in fact you have to investigate

reality for yourself you can’t just be handed to it and and just be told about it and but no one tells you that yeah

that’s that there’s more well right right either way you still have to see and know it for yourself right uh and so

this is a big part of my journey too and why it’s at the top most because if if something’s not true

well then it’s it’s an illusion it’s false and it doesn’t exist so just think about all the other things that can be

potentially valued in life if it’s if they’re not even true to begin with well then they’re just an

illusion in a waste of time you know what i mean and also if if i’m

giving something out there that’s not true then i’m just a fool you know if i’m

putting something out there and that’s not true then i’m a fool and if i’m receiving something

that’s not true then i’m being fooled yeah yeah i see that so truth is like it’s

like the foundation and thread of i guess all phenomena it seems like in

reality because if it’s not true then it’s an illusion it’s not real it’s false false falsehoods don’t exist

because they’re falsehoods right they’re illusions they’re like a phantom you know a wisp of smoke that’s just

you know there’s nothing to it it’s not it’s not real so it’s not it doesn’t exist so what do you think about the

idea that one person can have a truth and another person can have a truth and

both of those truths are valid yeah so that’s this is i think this is really interesting too because

Truth

okay so obviously we’re not talking about ultimate reality at that point that’s obviously clear right we can’t really even talk about that to begin

with and this is a really common thing people talk about their truth in that truth i don’t um i think that’s maybe

one understanding but i’m trying to think of the the way that it was put that i really like but i would just say

this as a counter kind of counter question is two plus two okay if someone sees two

plus two equals seven another people person says two plus two equals four another says two plus two equals five

you know are they all valid i don’t know i would say i i would say only the two plus two equals four unless the base

number system changed or something and i did my math wrong but see you’re coming down to some concrete yes valley

that’s an impossibility to change things like numbers yes and so that’s that’s an easy distinction and a sermon of truth

now what i would say about that somebody’s true i would say that’s their perception of things okay the conventional reality yeah well

or perspective reality i would just say that if someone says this is my truth i would say well you know instead of

arguing one way or the other i would say well that’s your that’s how you’re perceiving reality it’s not invalid it

might not necessarily be valid but that’s their pers that’s how they’re perceiving uh reality it goes to a

really important point that we kind of talked about earlier that a lot of people don’t live in reality they live

in a story about reality yeah you know worry about reality because and stories are so fascinating great because that’s

how we kind of interpret the world and how we share and relate information and things to each other because it deeply

resonates with the human experience stories do but a lot of times you know what the actual reality is closer to

okay i have these sensations in my body i see this visual phenomenon maybe shape color but what the language and our

perception of what this is are are things added on top but most people aren’t even there they’re they’re

they’re talking about stories in their minds about what has happened and they’re mistaking that for the actual

experience that we that we had or you know are that we haven’t had and so it’s

a beautiful way to relate to the world but just know that it’s not the same thing as actual lived experience right

and speaking of lived experience i do want to just touch on

Sovereign Beings

touch on one thing for all the people listening i don’t think that our conversation here

uh rules out or excludes or negates anyone’s uh

to anyone’s perceived truth it it the most important about thing about all

of this is we are sovereign beings and i am not condemning anyone for their

belief system absolutely it’s what you do with the belief system your actions matter yes and impacting

other things and people negatively is not the way that it should be because we

are all here for positive benefit that’s not yes natural selection is a thing yes

consumption and carnivorism and animals eating animals and destruction this is all part of the world but when it comes

down to these truths i really feel that uh we have the opportunity

to in our own truths accept other people for being their own sovereign entity and

allowing them to have their truth and and i think this is where healthy relationships are something that matters

right and big time that’s that this goes into all kinds of other conversation jumping off points but uh

especially at the moment that we’re in in our nation we’re sitting in st louis

missouri the united states of america we live in a republican-led state we have

all kinds of what are understood by many people to be infringements on our human

rights going on today in our state in our city in the world we have all kinds

of problems where there’s a vast amount a vast majority of people on the planet who are

suffering physically from one thing or another one circumstance or another and so when we talk about the truths that

bring us to this point um i feel that while everyone has the

opportunity to perceive their own reality and stuff i think more people need to think for

themselves absolutely so many people and and again i’m not judging anybody but many people are willing to accept

what the leadership says whichever leadership that is as a rote fact without even questioning

without even questioning it or even talking to anybody and the truth of the matter is that we really need to think

for ourselves if it sounds fishy it probably is and you should do some research about it it just seems such

common sense to me at this point but and how can we support people to do do likewise

going back to just yes uh whether or not you know the truth or if we want to keep saying this is my truth that’s that’s

okay you know are not okay that’s you know that’s to draw that distinction for me

it’s really helpful non-harming it all starts with non-harmony and i love this

question too that one of my teachers puts is how if everybody was doing the same thing i

was doing how would the world look you know and so it kind of puts our behavior into perspective like there are

certain things that i do if everybody was doing that i wouldn’t really want that world so it’s kind of a wake-up call but there’s

other things it’s like you know this would be very helpful if everybody would be doing this so dignity though is the

thing that just come up over and over again with the the kind of plight of humanity and it’s that’s like the historical

buddha to not keep name drop in that but he only taught one thing suffering in the end of suffering you know stress in

the end of stress and as far as it looks through all of history recorded histories that still seems to be the

number one thing we’re challenged by you know and so all this metaphysical stuff we’re talking about it’s lovely i love

it it’s a great hobby you know way more healthy than tons of other hobbies but this is the core

thing facing humanity still it still is and it seems like it always has you know at least

from in recent memory knowing stress and knowing the the way out of stress and that it is possible yeah and so this is

one of the things i is is common human dignity everybody is worthy of respect

you know and uh yes so that that’s that’s a it’s a it’s a huge thing you

know that dignity deal uh the one thing i’m reminded about is uh beyond the fact

Spreading Love

that everyone deserves dignity everyone deserves to show other people dignity um

and and in this it spreads the love especially to ourselves especially to

ourselves that’s the one person we forget to often show that dignity and gentleness i’m a huge

i work on it every day well the feminine especially because they’re all they’re they’re trained to take care of

everybody else at their own expense basically yeah so and and and the girls

are trained like that many of us uh because of our loving mothers are trained like that yeah these days it’s

it’s a fast it’s a wonderful thing but they suffer a lot of times even more so because of that over giving if we could

all if if that if people could bring in personal dignity personal sovereignty

and to use the uh the psychotherapy term boundaries

um and and just understand what healthy boundaries neighborly boundaries are then i think uh we would all live better

stress-free lives but it’s such an interesting thing uh you talk about the stress and the suffering and how this

time this kind of seems to be a human condition that we can’t get over well we can

practice and training right and and also it’s a commitment to living differently like to see

english stress to seeing the suffering and not putting blinders on lifestyle but finding the way however there’s so

many ways to to find this but however you find it finding the way to a positive resonance inside with yourself

and that’s going to echo out to other people it is and a lot of that is just as simple being honest with ourselves

too yeah like this sucks i don’t like this that’s being honest with ourselves you know and it doesn’t necessarily mean

we have to go around telling everybody it sucks and making their you know worse but just not lying to yourself that’s

that’s a huge step for a lot of people i mean it’s just something as simple as that people aren’t really willing to do that right at times so this is

people aren’t willing to do it because of many reasons and one of the reasons that i think many

people don’t do this is because they think it’s hard or they think they need learn they need education or something

Mindfulness

my colleagues and i feel that this is another base misconception that we as a

whole civilization could really work on uh because mindfulness it’s it’s coming

around in pop culture this whole mindfulness idea and and mindfulness is at the core of what the buddha talks

about the historical buddha talks about and and in so many it’s what christ talks about it’s what shakespeare talks

about it know thyself is one of the most important efforts that we can possibly

make as beings whether we’re human or animal or whatever and that’s that’s another thing you can

never have as much mindfulness it is the balancing factor and everything we’re just talking about the positivity thing

and i totally the way the think world are now you need more positivity just to balance it out because you have the

opposite extreme where people like that’s all they do all day long is like how horrible this is and they’re they’re

not worried about honesty they’re they’re going the other opposite way complaining all the time how many people

will bond by complaining with things you know what i mean and so it’s the other extreme so but mindfulness we have that

we can help better discern okay are we being a little overly pollyannaish or

are we being a debbie downer all the time or is there more to this situation at hand absolutely that that person who

ran the red light in front of you or who who you know edged you off the

bike path or whatever i feel that this is if we can adopt a mindful

just a mindful outlook in our mind and it’s it’s that momentary it’s the moment before judgment where you just say hey

hold on think about it just for a second don’t don’t escalate into thermonuclear warfare in your brain don’t let your

dander get up like however you want to phrase it if you just say take a breath and be a little mindful

then you might realize hey that person has their own issues that they were dealing with right then and it’s not about me

Space

and that’s a huge thing too or i might be scared because i’ve almost gotten an accident could be so many things and the

great thing about mindfulness training in practice is it gives us that space so where we can respond instead of

automatically react from habit patterns right it just even if it’s just a little bitty

microsecond that will drop by drop that fills up so where we have the space to

see things with more wisdom and love and have more time for response instead of

reaction right and not only that but it’s uh mindfulness um

there’s so many things to say about it one of the definitions of it is you know knowing what’s happening in the moment

as it happens without really any kind of um you know judgmentalism about it

another thing though is just being able to uh mol not mull over but

linger on a certain topic so just holding a topic in mind or an object you know a meditation object like the breath

and just the ability to um come back again and again to it let it

linger there because we have such these short attention spans and just going from topic to topic to topic and stuff

and you know it’s like it’s it’s fun and it you know it gives energy but to have

uh to to train a little bit more deeply to just say oh well i can just sit with

this one thing and just keep going over it and seeing this just different multi-dimensional nature of it

considering certain things about it that we wouldn’t normally consider and these things will just naturally

arise as uh kind of the debris will um kind of

uh settle to the ground like you put stuff in water the debris will eventually settle to the bottom and so

things will start clearing up the level of consciousness will become greater we’ll be have more awareness to see

whatever we’re seeing with uh for more different perspectives the perceptual sphere will um come more online we’ll be

able to see more choices in life too uh instead of just uh getting stuck into this binary

yes or no type thing well all these other possibilities will come up right and then it leads more on to discernment

too where will not will we be overwhelmed by all the choices we have we’ll just kind of have

a better idea of what will lead what choices lead more away from long-term

stress and suffering for myself and others and what choices better lead towards less suffering

especially towards the long term for myself and others right it’s a beautiful thing it’s a balancing factor

Art Appreciation

i really appreciate all of that wisdom and and and especially the idea of sitting with something uh whether it’s a

breath or a little totem uh like a sculpture or something a piece of

artwork appreciation sitting there and and not just appreciating it but really getting into understanding it and and

maybe that’s research and maybe that’s a little education uh like let’s go back to the painting thinking about the

artist and the materials and and the emotion all of that is being mindful about that

object and you’ll notice in those moments you might even forget that you’re in an art museum or wherever you

are you might even realize how relaxed you are after that and this i think is

the key we can have those moments they don’t have to be fleeting we can we can

manufacture them in our own daily lives and the reason why i bring this up is

Light Life Technology

because josh and i have been talking this morning about all kinds of things such as orgonite and

slim spurlings light life technology that involves tensor rings and harmonization techniques and objects

and what’s fascinating is people human beings have been making stuff like this since the dawn of creation

and it has been roped into all kinds of controversy the powers that have evolved

over time the people and organizations that run whatever show you’re involved

in and i’m involved in they perhaps want to teach us in a certain way

and what i found is that it’s limiting the idea that we have really fostered

here is that mindfulness and personal sovereignty and self-awareness actually lead towards a healthier lifestyle for a

person and if we all engage in this in ways of non-judgmental neighborly mindful

interaction that is to back to an earlier idea that we were headed towards

that is how we build community but it starts with the self and it doesn’t necessarily have to be

me running out every day trying to connect with other people i find that

i end up in the community that i end up in because i focus on myself and because

i learn how to apply mindfulness and because in doing that i live my life a certain

way and other people who do the same things end up in my life and it’s

effective infinity yeah affinity right energetic and conscious affinity and so this you know for all of you who are

into manifestation and the law of attraction and stuff this is a perfect example about how like resonance attracts like resonant

and i mean honestly if i encounter negativity i’ll just leave it at that

negativity uh i know that by being a little mindful it will pass or not just

pass through me pass by me or whatever or but it will possibly even be transmuted into

something better for instance if i’m smiling and i smile at someone on the street who’s having a bad day

they could perhaps walk away from me with a smile and if they and if they don’t and you

get a scowl or something well then that’s just an opportunity to see how are we taking that what is our response

to that what kind of emotions that brings up in us well then that’s an opportunity to elevate and heal our

responses to that and it goes back to earlier point where you’re talking about not taking things personally and it’s

such a huge game changer when i’ve learned that nothing is personal

it really is not you know when somebody does something it’s more about showing an indication of where they’re at on

their journey for sure and going back now to community building about this relationship especially with ourselves

everything in life is relationship even the relationships we have to ourselves our thoughts our emotions our actions

how we view things in retrospect how we learn things we’re all in relationship to these things these this

multi-dimensional multi-faceted uh internal relationships we have just on the internal with with

our own perception or whatever you know and so that’s uh and then we then we um that will inform how we go into the

outer world and interact with things on the external and then how those two mesh together so that relational thing and

having our own house in order first and then our relation

ship is such a huge area for growth and then when we start getting into that and really seeing the depth and complexity

and start to have some kind of mastery on that then we can look at ideal communities or know like what kind of

community settings that we want to bid in and i would say that it needs to be um considered too because no matter what

Ideal Communities

we’re in community already anyway right yeah even if you live in a rural area there you still have some neighbors

around even if they’re a hundred miles away or something even if you’re a hermit mountain in the world yeah

they’re still in community if they are a thousand miles that way yes or just animals and nature you know you’re so

there’s a community that type of way look at what communities we’re in now and look what are the ideal communities

for ourselves first off then i guess for our closest relationships and then also

for where we want to be with both of those and then start expanding so once we kind of get a little handle on that

well then how can we keep applying that to greater and greater towards the macro scale but also

in a way that respects people’s sovereignty right that if people still want to segregate but not by that i mean

like if somebody does not want to have anything to do with that how do we respect those rights too and deal with

that right and how do we give everybody the kind of same opportunity to build the communities they want to build you

know without infringing on anyone’s else and then how do we get this underlying threat of connect still maintain this

threat of interconnectedness and unity consciousness within all of that is that still possible with people wanting to do

their own things that might be on other ends of the polarity you know spectrum and balancing all this and working with

this you know so all these are huge big questions that i just run into more and more people especially you know within

the past i don’t know even a few months where people are really getting into looking at this community issue and i

won’t go into specifics here but david has been working on this for quite some time now i you know you ask you ask

these questions how do we do it and and i think uh on all those layers

levels i feel that there’s there’s an interesting thing that happens and and there’s an amount of trust

that uh one has to have in life and and that is the whole connect and

connection to the greater thing that like it is it is going to be good right like all these negative things i feel

are the negative thoughts the impending doom all this stuff really is a result

in our brains is a result of stories that we’ve been told about possibilities that can happen or have happened or what

happens right that’s a fantasy that’s worry that’s a fantasy well i think fantasy is a tough word because

yes i see how you’re using it but when you say that’s a fantasy and someone’s talking about the holidays oh yeah you

can’t do that no that’s actually a fact that’s right so yeah but what i’m saying about worry you know it’s it’s one thing

to see possibilities and to plan for possibilities but to think that it’s already here happening that i need to be

in a state of anxiety and fear and shutdown and retaliation of something that’s not even happening it’s just a

story in her head right that’s what i mean by it’s a fantasy right yeah now i’m not saying don’t prepare don’t look

into possibilities and don’t do planning i’m not saying that prudent planning for possible outcomes is important and i’m a

project manager professionally so risk management is a huge thing yes i have had to learn through mindfulness

about risk management i am preparing for a potential solution that i don’t want to happen but when it

happens if it happens we will be prepared to make sure it goes well now i have

watched uh professionals prepare to their excellent most

excellent effort and they ended up dying of stress-related cancerous causes

because they were so focused on the problem not the awesome outcome like the idea

the trick here is that we have to focus on the awesome outcome that we want and be aware that it could go differently

yes and have safe catches for if it goes differently here’s how we scoop it back and we send it towards the awesomeness

now what’s crazy it this is a whole other subject matter but you asked how

we can do all these things i think if we focus on ourselves and we allow

everyone else to focus on ourselves in a non-judgmental way and we talk about finding ourselves in doing what is

naturally inclined to us we will realize that there are those of us in the community that are naturally inclined to

build the framework to build the physicality to establish the organizations it’s all out of love and

it’s all a knack because i like building things with my hands this guy over here likes wiring things and running

electricity through them this person over here really loves organizing things for kids to play with we all gravitate

to the natural things that we love to do and that’s how social structure is built that’s how communities build it’s not

forced it’s a choice and a decision voluntary yes but i’ll tell you honestly

here now 21st century sitting in st louis in the united states of america on the planet earth how we do that

we manage to get the federal but federal government to change the way they spend

money so that 60 percent of the gdp is focused on the national community not

building weapons to destroy other national communities because they are threats to us so common sense to me and

and and like if you see where the money flows and how the money doesn’t flow to

a healthy community the money flows to destruction yeah and and especially in the states yeah it’s a war this is a war

pillar of the world i and i do not consent to that i’m not knocking anyone who came before me i am not knocking

anyone who is now and doing what they’re doing here what i’m asking them to do is reevaluate their situation and say is

this beneficial for me my children and my grandchildren seven generations down

is it beneficial for my neighbor and their children and their children their grandchildren seven generations out and

then think about all of the rest of the people who need to say this about is it

beneficial for me and my neighbor and my children and then realize that oh while

a guided super cool mortar that can be fired and then dropped like a drone on a tank

somewhere over played like a video game like that’s some cool tech movies but we

we don’t have to have that in fact that’s not the right way to say it that is not beneficial for anyone yeah

especially in the long term yeah now i i could see it if we if this country was being you know bombed repeatedly for

months it never has been yeah exactly you know and people could say that that’s because we fight a a proactive

war right or that when you realize that the war hasn’t stopped yeah and then the war continues going because we keep it

going yep because we’re consenting to it coming back to the idea of community this is not beneficial the war yeah yeah

absolutely i mean it’s uh and i don’t think that’s too unreasonable at 60 40 you know and just

flip it yeah right go ahead spend 40 on the on the weapons yeah yeah i mean just

start there you know it’s just like or even just to even start with a thousand dollars more you know at this point you

know but i mean it’s it to me it just seems so silly the the war and so we

can’t end war with war you know you get hatred can never end by hatred ill will can never overtake ill will only by

non-ill will will ill will be overcome and this is an ancient eternal law right

you know and it just it just makes so much sense to me but uh and it comes down to but on our level we

have to look like i can only really say that if i take responsibility for my own commitment to non-harming yeah you know

exactly and this doesn’t go it starts with yourself it does and it this doesn’t negate the second amendment kind

of thing because even though i don’t have a gun i am very pro rights for second amendment because

people that are legitimate they have families to protect if somebody aggresses force on you and they

threatened your life in the life of your loved ones well then it just seems ridiculous to for me to say well you

should just you know just die because you shouldn’t harm anybody well no at that point it’s not harming it it’s

you’re protecting yourself you’re not aggressing on anyone you’re you’re defending your life and your loved ones

and so eventually we’ll get to the point where we won’t need any of that at all the level of consciousness will be so fact where that will just be like a

thing of the past but until that happens yes the non-aggression principle i don’t think i’ve met anybody that disagrees

with i mean even though they might not choose to do any kind of violence at all and just you know be like a martyr or

something they still will allow people to protect their lives once they’re aggressed upon but no one has the right

to aggress upon another initiate aggression on another right you know so that just i’m so i’m not saying i’m anti

uh you know uh you know uh protecting yourself not at all it’s just uh where

has all this um bombing and uh harming and basically there’s an accident that

says all wars are banker wars right so people certainly have been in the last couple of centuries the bankers are

funding both sides for profit and playing people’s lives like pawns and

i’m not disrespecting veterans either because a lot of them getting into things they have no idea what they’re getting into you know i think that

actually uh i think one of the most unfortunate things is

we have this is my personal perspective i i very much value all the service people

that work in our military and all of the peripheral groups that serve the military and we both have veterans and

backgrounds and our families yes yes so like i’m not knocking anyone for their for their choices i i really appreciate

all of the brave honorable men and women that have gone before and served and are serving right now

i actually think that in the current in the current day and age

all of those people are being extremely manipulated and used and

there was a uh i i almost went to the military and joined the navy one time

that’s a different story for a different day but amongst the group they i noticed it was right after 9 11

happened and uh there was a ton of army recruits and i was in the navy with just

a handful of other people going through that day and there was one candidate for the air force and a

handful of people for the marines too and you could kind of tell the people’s dispositions based upon which branch

they were headed into but all of us who were not part of the army uh we were

kind of over on this side of the room because the army folks were just very raw raw and we’re going to go get them

and i heard an older gentleman coming back older than i was

and he was re-enlisting because of the current threat situation

and he jokingly said look at all that cannon fodder over there and i said what do you mean and he said

where do you think those guys are going to be front lines receiving rockets in the face wow and the reality of that

just it dawned on me that we have not evolved that far from world war one where they were fighting in trenches

with mustard gas and all those horrific stories that we hear yeah and and like yes there have to be people on the front

line shooting at each other yes there have to be those people and and in warfare that doesn’t have to be you know

and ultimately but yeah yeah right right and so it just made me super sad i actually didn’t join the military thank

god because i have bad knees and the doctor wouldn’t let me in uh when i got that out i also had talked to

several other people that day and they told me point blank that the recruitment

officer was lying to me about where i was going to be able to go because of the scores that i had they knew these

experienced people knew that i would be put into the intelligence service and that would not be a choice i would have

no free choice after i signed the line oh yeah i did not sign that day and it weighs heavily on me because uh it no

longer weighs but it if i go back to that moment i remember the weight and the emotional decision that i had to

make in the middle of the space that i was about to sign and i turned down my country i turned down the

guys who were rooting for me that day i turned down i i had all of these things and i managed to pull myself out of the

building and walk away wow and and i look back on it and i realized that that

moment the the guy that i was sitting next to who was re-enlisting who gave me the insight about the reality of what

was about to happen to a person like myself yeah going into the navy because i wanted to drive a battleship i

wanted to learn how to drive a big boat right but he said that that would not like they might let me do that for a short

period of time and then it would be very much intelligence yeah and uh

i just realized that if i sign away my free will to an organization any organization then

i i really can’t control anything from there on out and that that was an interesting talking about how the river

of life takes us that was an interesting bend in the river that shot me down a side thing and now here i am many years

later uh building the new civilization from the grassroots and the ground up with

everybody else who’s like-minded and mindfully trying to not not save our

civilization because there’s nothing to save we’re doing fine reorient kind of fix some of the flows

energetically and and creates new positive solutions for everybody and i

think what’s beautiful about it is that if we all come together in community that’s a

mutual respect we can all really figure out that you can think this and i can think this and

we don’t have to conflict it is and that’s how we bring people to the table

several things to pick up on here you know it’s like you you said you walked out on them i

would think you you stood up for your country in some ways you know what i mean maybe i stood up for myself yeah

and i think that you know the the way you could have helped society and humanity it was better

served this way that so many other things to say the patriot programming it is intense i have been subject to this

it’s something i’ve not really been public about and i don’t think the time is now for that right but i would say the patriot programming runs very deep

as you kind of illustrated there as well um now the the the other thing is that uh

yeah these black projects i mean who knows you might have gotten a special access project in this intelligent stuff

and i will add that you know it might be my perspective might be different on this if i lived or was born in a country

where there wasn’t all this hostility and war programming and you know patriot

programming and beating the war drums i might have a wholly different picture i might have a huge warrior mentality

somewhere else because it’s you know being a little bit uh not i guess oppositional or at least balancing to

the prevalent thing that’s going on that i don’t see as wholesome skillful or wise in this country it’s it’s it’s like

this there’s this huge war programming uh but it’s weird because it’s not really everyday life around here you

don’t see it but it’s there going foreign right because all the wars are in in the foreign so that the

programming is always there’s underlying current of this this war programming going on all the

time but it’s not really expressed uh uh overtly in everyday society so much

yes because both of us are doing kind of a in service work i would say now yeah and we haven’t joined the military

although i had recruiters after me too or you know calling me a lot too i still

be very mindful of the covert things that go on with military even though i say i’m not consenting to it or have

anything to do with it right being aware that well who might use our perceptions

and what we say against us right for their purposes so how might they be using what we’re

saying and doing actually to kind of turn against us our our level of awareness isn’t to the point where doing

what we say we we’re doing are if there’s a better route that we’re being prohibited from seeing and engaging in

because of we’re still being subjected to kind of this covert military

operations you know it sounds all it is i mean when you talk about spy crap you know

spy games covert military operations and unacknowledged special access project

basically your imagination is the only limit to the types of tricks they do and

although i could be wrong the thing is we don’t know because it’s all classified right and a lot of the times

a lot of these conspiracy theories get going is because there’s a whole complex where there’s only a certain amount of

people that are read in and the people that are read in they’re under secrecy agreements so there’s certain things

they can’t talk about they can’t confirm or deny and so this whole culture has built up around this people just wanting

to know certain people are ready for certain things but they’re not allowed to do it and so for an outlet for that

sometimes they start conjecturing or coming up with maybe pushing things too far but then other people will see it as

like okay well then you get this label conspiracy theory and then that all investigation shuts down right there

right they won’t look into it for themselves because there’s a social stigma saying oh this guy’s a conspiracy theorist they’re using both of those

dynamics against the population too absolutely and plus all the other things we don’t know about because it’s classified and i think what’s

fascinating to just talk about the things that we don’t understand but the ways that the

place that we live in right now is created manufactured to support their

way of being and i say their the military-industrial establishment way of being we have all these

action-packed movies and i’m a huge action fan i have realized though that the amount of violence yes in our lives

daily lives just on our media entertainment is horrible it is horrible i was trying to

watch something just trying to find something that was non-violent the other day and literally i had to like find

some dramas which were about adultery and other violence of other types emotional violence emotional violence

right but like i’m a huge superhero fan i’m a huge fan of all kinds of fun science fiction

things like that star wars is it i love the storyline yeah but i realized the other day as i

was watching the mandalorian that i really wish we could come up with a storyline where

people weren’t shooting each other same way or any kind of violence you can still make there’s got to be a

way to make it entertainment yeah yeah and that’s the thing we entertain is entertainment this is a whole study like a graduate

level yeah about like neuroscience and how our brain works right but it’s so fascinating because if now what has

happened is like you you were talking about the black budgets and things like yup and if y’all don’t know listeners

you should research the idea of black operations black budgets i forget the exact numbers and i forget how many

years ago it was but they were forced congress was forced to admit that there’s a whole section of the budget

they can’t see because it’s black operations and they’re forecasting of that black ops

budget and it’s not just military it’s black government budget that the general legislature cannot see it off the off

the budget they estimated to be at least one third of the whole american budget

on an annual basis well it was rumsfeld that said the day before 911 right he he announced

all this unaccounted for money money he lost it he didn’t know where it went right he announced he announced it the

day before right yeah then 9 11. so there’s all kinds of weird things like that and and this talks talking about those

weird things there’s these black budgets there’s these obscured situations that we we americans

have no right except it’s our money all that money is our money that we paid in in our taxes don’t be fooled that’s

exactly where it came from it’s your money too if you live here in the united states let me illustrate a point real quick can

you hold your head around sure so my point is all these black budgets yes there are movies out there everything

from michigan impossible to all these other cool like the the fast and the furious stuff there are so many

instances of technology or situations or occurrences in the world that are

mimicked or talked about in those fanciful stories that we see on the big

screen and i feel that it’s been done sure the entertainment industry went off

on and did its own thing but now the government ever since the movie black hawk down came out which is the first

time that declassified information was declassified within a generation of it happening yeah ever since that movie

happened they have been able to say oh you saw that in a movie you’re you’re making things up in your

head but the counter is that it’s it’s it’s mainstream now that they have consultants from the military on the

projects okay so wouldn’t it just make it’s common sense that they would be trying to promote people to join the

military yeah you know i mean it’s just guys it’s common sense you know all the need and especially the cia right so and

you know the dirty tricks there like it’s called intelligence but that their job is to lie they lie for a living intelligence and

counterintelligence i think is the truth tellers right or whatever more there’s a trash truck here which thank

goodness for that because could you imagine if our trash wasn’t picked up oh my god i have heard stories

uh my brother lives in katy ty or used to live in katy texas and when hurricane

katrina came forward trash service in his community was was postponed for like three weeks

and uh in in houston proper it was a lot longer and talk about like in in the

coronavirus situation in the major cities like new york they were and even in st louis there were issues where they

couldn’t pick up the trash and even just two weeks of trash not being picked up in a major

city causes extreme sanitation problems like like black plague level

issues where if because of the homeless population and its size unfortunately you have all kinds of people that are

exposed to trash and and nasty bacteria filled environmental situations and so

that’s that’s on a good day with all the dumpsters being emptied weekly yeah and it’s not to say the uh the effect on

consciousness i feel it has too just seeing litter and how it shows how unconscious that you know folks would

even litter to begin with or you know and then also that you know folks wouldn’t come by and help clean it up

too and it’s just kind of the state of being and a lot of these products that are littered they will attract kind of

this death decay energy right and so that’s being drawn to it until it’s completely broken down so

where it can go back to the earth and things can grow again from it you know so i mean that might take hundreds of

years why it’s it’s attracting this decay uh erosion energy so

well why don’t you let people know the again how they can get in touch with you okay uh so my website is

alternativelifeguide.com through that you can also see several different community development

activities uh and things that we have going on here in st louis

and you know on a on a final note i like how you mentioned the trash

being mindful in yourself really promotes you to take control of yourself control of your

being in your environment in your city in your community and and it helps you

kind of gain a grasp on how to be that better person what are your dreams that’s important what are your dreams

for you and your community that’s important too but it really it starts by picking up the trash it does

responsibility being responsible and helping your neighbors throw their trash away and if you see a bunch of

stuff laying around the dumpster man go buy a pair of gloves spend half an hour

picking that stuff up around the dumpster i’m serious i’ve done it in in the community downtown where we’re

building our office and it’s not only is it really gratifying at the end of the day at the end of the experience

especially if you participate with other people while doing it yes um but most importantly the folks in their

houses who see you doing that who don’t have the wherewithal themselves to put the gloves on and get out there and

clean it you just help them get towards a space that they can put gloves on and clean their own space up

just by helping just by cleaning up the trash can in the alley absolutely so and not out of obligation but this is

something that’s actually empowering right it’s empowering us the people who do it the community you know it just

says you you care okay you know and just notice how you feel uh before

during and then after yeah and uh eventually uh if just think about if you go into uh like a place that just is

trash everywhere everything’s run down how you feel and then how you feel in a neighborhood that’s like

kind of beautified you know it’s a everybody can notice how they feel so if you bring some of the beautification to

a place that doesn’t have it well then obviously you know you’re going to feel the benefits right it’s a surface level

kind of thing in a way but it does have a domino effect like you’re saying you know it does make a change like the broken

window theory go beyond that like what can help implement this to more lasting

things to help boost the level of consciousness to help people uh taken that empowerment back for themselves and

make more even more lasting change but even just that surface level thing can have a big impact and talking about

people that want to help the environment that is one of the most immediate practical ways to help our environment i

do want to i do want to add one thing this is this is a last note on this idea of community

development cleaning up yourself in your space regardless of what you label it as

negative energies demons it doesn’t matter there’s an important thing to understand

for all of us humans we are sovereign beings

we can tell other things how to treat us

we can say you have no power over me and they don’t it’s as simple as that so

just for instance if you are cleaning up trash and you get it all and span

and then you start to feel negative inside there may have been something in that trash that you can’t see that

latched onto you and is interested in you for some reason mostly because you’re there you can say get off of me yes you have

no power over me and if that doesn’t work alone do a little dance get happy

and if that doesn’t work go meditate and spend some time go into a church go someplace get some garlic you know go

look at a cross actually use these things that are propagated in mythology to help yourself rid yourself

of any bad things that are hanging on because that i don’t really know how to describe it in a uh

a way more than creepy crawlies or etheric demons like the taloric field is

something that you can read about but the most important thing is you are a sovereign being you have power over

yourself and you can declare that sovereignty to take back your power

beautifully said and that’s the that’s our clearing work too and yeah and it goes to speak of energetic hygiene yeah

and so we’ll see if anything like that does happen you’ll have immediately know how important it is to not only

clean our house and clean ourselves but then to do energetic hygiene too and like david said there’s so many

different ways to do that and one of the good ways is to check out his site too alternative life guide he sells um

devices and artwork to do the site

if you are interested in anything uh to on on the website i’m very excited to talk about it and my

practice is all growing and i will have things for sale so just

check in and and connect on the website let me have your email and i will keep you posted cool

all right and then i will probably link to some of our past conversations on this too all right thanks for listening

guys peace