David from Alternative Life Guide and I pick up from the end of Part 1 — “Life Force, Art, Technology and (Digging) Crystals | In Conversation with David Hults” for:
- An expanded, detailed exploration of energy:
- everyday, practical
- esoteric
- power of fire
- sun
- energy healing
- different names for (types of) energy
- planetary
- cosmic
- circulation
- heart energy
- human level
- introvert/extrovert/mesovert
- how to recharge
- signs of depletion
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Then we get into:
- scale of consciousness
- mindfulness of consciousness and psychology’s recently involvement
- Brené Brown’s work on vulnerability
- emotional spectrum
- inconstancy and impermanence
- peak experience
- McMindfulness and the Mindfulness Industrial Complex
- balancing will and surrender (of control)
- control as an illusion
- what is skillful, wise and wholesome
- judgement vs judgmentalism vs discernment
- superior, inferior and equality conceit
- sovereignty, group think and unity consciousness
- group consciousness and conscious groups
- cults and abuse
- self-worth
- authenticity
- not settling
- Mindvalley
- respect
- competition vs. collaboration and cooperation
- service to others boosted by inner and shadow work
Watch Part 1 — “Life Force, Art, Technology and (Digging) Crystals | In Conversation with David Hults“
The raw unedited YouTube transcription of this podcast:
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my name is david holt and i’m with alternative life guys this is josh hippold of integrating presence
and we are here talking about things the public should know um i don’t know if if anybody caught the the last
conversation the last video we were doing where we wrapped it up with um energy and uh
well what exactly is energy you know uh we deal with energy every day if you heat your home
What is energy
cool your home you know you run or go walk you need energy so yeah how would you
def how would you define energy and why is that important that is a really wide definition
right so the sunlight is energy and uh we know that electricity is
energy but we have geothermal energy steam energy you know
if you look in your science training um energy can be defined
as all kinds of things but essentially at the crux it is a source of power and ability to
create other stuff from that source for instance the electric the electricity powers your life the
geothermal energy can create heat the idea of fire can burn and
produce all kinds of other things energy
Life force energy
that we are talking about uh is a much more esoteric thing it’s about
the planetary key fields it’s about the inherent life force
in the cosmos in creation that extends from the edge of the known universe all the
way into the core of every planet and our own hearts i think that
a lot of the energy con concepts that we’re referring to can be
seen in energy healing and reiki healing
acupuncturists deal with this type of energy when they connect the different points in the body through
the acupuncture needles and it’s called a wide variety of different names but essentially you
could refer to it as chi or just the force
is what star wars calls it but energy the word energy is a really good sum total of all of
this i think you know life force energy is what some folks call it too
there was a guy that with with organite stuff wilhelm reich can look up his uh work
morgan argo and energy all right that’s another word for it um and uh he was studied under freud but
then he was um well his whole story there’s plenty of information about him
look him up um the hand nikolai tesla yes most people are familiar with that
name by now just because of the car right at least because of the car but it’s pretty i mean it’s just obvious if
you want to get somebody that’s really sick and close to death if you just look at them there’s it just doesn’t seem like they have much
you know life left in them so to speak right that’s a really good way to look at it but then you you if i don’t know if
anybody’s witness to birth you just go and it’s just kind of like a magical it’s you know so much um life
energy life force in the where that birth takes place i remember that with my niece and nephew um
anyway um how it even imbues the whole room with energy and everyone’s there is more upbeat and
more full of life you get around or you can just get around somebody that’s naturally has a lot of life force energy
they’re just kind of like people gravitate to them they’re like a magnetic personality but if you have
somebody that’s you know have been through multiple traumas sometimes it can be more challenging
to be around certain people during certain times like that so yeah it’s a really fascinating mysterious type of thing but then also
something we deal with just about every day and it’s also common it can be commonplace as well
one way that you can uh observe the energy and how we are all energetic
beings you mentioned how the the some people that are very exuberant and outgoing we
might even call them extroverts or something like that they have a lot of energy to burn right
and so we’re attracted to them they’re always very outgoing and they can raise the level of the room
they can raise other people’s energy around them uh and that’s how they get replenished themselves
is through you know other people and yes well the opposite introverts you need to go in
recharge your batteries in alone time right that’s how they recharge that’s how and i’m an introvert uh very much so so when we are
around a lot of people we actually get drained of our energy unless we’ve learned to
protect ourselves in different ways or find a way to continually sustain ourselves which
requires a lot of introspection and inner learning for those of you who identify as
introverts i highly recommend finding a way to have alone time at least every day just a small period of it
because it is the difference between wearing yourself thin or having some kind of a robust life
because you need that blank space to just be with yourself and you’ll feel it
don’t worry but i mean even if you just take time to write in your journal or take time to draw a piece of art or
for me i like to sit with all my crystals and just kind of hang out there
but sometimes it’s not even about doing anything it’s more of i’m taking the time for
myself because i need my energy especially during this time too you know when i
was more introverted i just i had to have that as otherwise it’s hard for me to function uh right
the way i wanted to because it was just uh that was just a necessity and it’s yeah it’s self-care and self-nurturing
and self-love during this time is really super important even for extroverts i feel you know oh yeah and then another way too is even
well i would say more if you had to put a label mesovert which is a word i learned recently so it’s kind of it’s kind of like a it’s a cross between
or it’s a it’s a balance between introverted and extroverted and one another way for that is to find
people we resonate with right yes so where we don’t that’s another gauge too so are you in a
situation where your energy’s feeling are you feeling are you feeling constricted and drained are we feeling
expansive and energized right with the activities and folks that we’re around so that’s a
good engage to know as well it really is and i’m glad you mentioned that because there’s a lot of tools that
we can use in the world today people have been studying this for a long time and uh there’s a consciousness scale and it
looks like a rainbow and it goes from like 100 down to zero which is essentially death and
enlightenment but in there they rank all of the levels of consciousness and
if you can find yourself in your current moment level of consciousness then you can change so if you find
yourself in like a fear or a downtrodden that’s not the right word but in one of the lower areas on
the scale then you know hey i can go up i can be happy
but there’s stair steps in that and uh if you look online for consciousness yes there’s so much
information out there and what’s really fun is nowadays all kinds of counseling and psychology
is really coming in studying this information and backing it up these the original people were also who
came up with this stuff were psychologists and other doctors but they couldn’t get the masses they
couldn’t get their information out to the masses because of the technology limitations back then well nowadays we
have so many people who are encountering this information on their own terms and really professionals in their
industries are taking it in and you’re seeing people like brene brown translate the consciousness scale
into her discussion about vulnerability and how it’s really important for all of us to
learn how to be vulnerable with ourselves and uh conscious of our energetic state
because it doesn’t matter whether we believe in religion or woo-woo or nothing these are more of
a practical application concepts that we can embrace to to be better functioning people the
consciousness scale to address that that it’s so great and that just shows why
there’s you can never have too much mindfulness because you have to know you have to be mindful of where
you’re at kind of in consciousness right so even if even if you’re all the way down uh the low one of the lowest levels you
still have to have some kind of awareness some kind of consciousness to know that but you have to have a comparison point
too right usually right some references some reference some other reference point that’s not it’s and that’s another
good point even or even if you’re at the highest expanded state of consciousness you still have to be mindful that you’re at that state right
and it’s not a constant that’s not that’s that’s what i was coming to next because in this world you know it’s um nothing
is really permanent and nothing is really constant so just realize no matter where you’re at yeah
there was there’s a scripture thing that says this two will change right this two will pass yeah this two will pass so
it’s like um yeah that’s that’s what if there’s any constant in life it’s that things aren’t constant
right which i think is which is a good can be a very good thing too because you would just be stagnated frozen into
the same level and you know where would be the you know it would just there would be no growth potential or
change you know it’d just be like um i guess like mashed potatoes or something i’ve been on top
and on bottom in our spectrum of like places to be in career success relationships stuff like that i
Peak experiences
think that the most important thing i’ve learned over time is that this is not a constant and we can’t
expect ourselves to be at the same level all the time because it just doesn’t work that way it’s not
for disappointment right there we’ll also we’ll burn ourselves out and trying to remain up here if we if we
learn how to surf the waves of our emotions and surf the waves of our daily life instead of trying to
maintain this at all times realize you go down and you come up you can also
harness the momentum and so for instance if i know that i need
to be on top right here then i’m going to kind of take it easy in all of my
efforts until i ride that momentum up into that high flying place that i need to be
at for whatever functionality it is peak experiences are great because they’re just
they they make things worthwhile right but to be constantly chasing after and trying to recreate
peak experiences can be a way to burn out too right and then also miss other peak experiences as well and also
that’s that’s great hold on peak experiences at different levels because yes but to like maybe the word peak isn’t
the we use the word peak to talk about the pinnacle yes right and and what you’re talking about is
having a uh perhaps lower consciousness experience with greater magnitude
greater importance you know a peak experience but in this level because i think that one of the
beautiful things about human beings is the spectrum of emotions that we work in it really is a constant
flow and we can’t expect to be happy and go lucky all the time wouldn’t want
to be anyway at the same time we wouldn’t want to be exactly we were talking earlier about that this
kind of air we get a lot of fly over the airports over there they like the term full spectrum human
full spectrum yes yes really is it’s such an appropriate uh
term because not only is there a full spectrum of light that we can understand and it’s all
beneficial for us like we’re just now in our science really coming to understand
light as wave form and how important it is in the whole spectrum of light not just
the part that we see or the parts that tan our skin or that make the plants grow like
all light has a purpose and we don’t understand half of it the about right i love that’s a that’s a
great idea um of right when we need to harness that to reach a certain
state when when life calls for that and that would be the optimum place to be at the same time realizing that
sometimes we have only a certain amount of involvement in doing that right but this uh which i feel a really
important part of that is intention which we can come back to in a second yeah also um to having the ability and
the the um development of will to be able to do something like that at the same time
where is the balance point of surrender where we can just let go and see what that might be what we
think might be optimal for us very well could be but it could also be something else that needs to happen
kind of on its own that would far exceed our imagination and expectations that we
just life kind of has in store for us naturally as well so for me it’s about balancing those two
things right so when when we feel we just kind of get it just kind of like a
notion that you know well this is probably what i need to aim for and other times it’s like well maybe would hand the reigns over to
life and see what life has in store as well i i do really resonate with the
uh the christians say let go and let god and i think that you can extrapolate
that into it doesn’t matter what you believe if you or god’s wills or god’s will right if you believe
that everything is happening the way that it should or that
you can trust the universe and i know i know this is really hard but
seriously you can do it too uh letting go and and releasing control is
probably one of the most profound gifts that i’ve learned about dealing with the you know this
year in 2020 dealing with the the employment concept
and career track concept i think many of us find ourselves in
places that we don’t necessarily like whether it’s physical mental career-wise
um but try as we might we struggle and strive and fight against the thing and
try to find our right place and for me really realizing that that
wasn’t working was part of my journey to this point and the releasing control actually
allowed me don’t get me wrong it was not easy or quick but it allowed me to truly find myself
because all of a sudden i started like paying attention to myself inside and i’m glad that you
mentioned mindfulness because i think that mindfulness is
a lot of people misunderstand it as if we’re trying to convert you to buddhism or something like that when there’s
roots of it in buddhism there’s roots of it in asian theology and religion there’s roots of it in
christian theology and religions but mindfulness is just about caring about the moment
and and experiencing what is a little bit more than you had been
before you know being mindful of how your body works why people do
things taking a moment breathe is just the most simple you don’t even have to think about it it’s just the most simple act
of mindfulness it’s like pay attention to your breath and and just be
you know um i feel that mindfulness has had a really good upswing in recent
years and popularity i think that the concept is just like yoga you know everybody knows
the word mindfulness now whether they practice it who cares i i think
it the buzzword is important because we understand that it is a thing and then you might be attracted one day
to check it out and and by researching mindfulness a little bit you might try meditation
a little bit and you know going back to that surfing the wave
it doesn’t have to be a long time there are times as a introverted empathic person
i realized that i might need some space literally some days of time to get ready
for a presentation or because i have to go to a family gathering or something that i know i’m gonna need
to be emotionally strong and sometimes afterwards to integrate those experiences as well afterwards right but at the same time
Mindfulness
if i meditate it can happen faster yeah it’s right it’s uh an expedient expedient means it
really is so the the mindfulness saying i’m glad you brought that up because uh this month’s conversation i do a monthly
shameless plug here a monthly conversation with uh denny mew in california online and uh that’s
our next topic is going to be mindfulness in the mindfulness industry well that’s kind of like a negative
thing or a kind of like maybe a more critical version of its popularity but the thing is like you i totally 100 percent agree
that it’s better when normally say um any press is good press right so just to have it draw attention to it
to me one of the definitions of mindfulness is um knowing what’s happening in the moment as it’s happening so yeah
it’s just a basic bear awareness right you you defined it very well the surrender part and how to just let
go and give up control it’s a very fascinating topic because you know it seems like we have some kind
of agency right and some people seem to have more of a higher agency than other
to to affect their world and whatnot but it seems like on an ultimate level maybe
control is kind of an illusion now this is something that not to be believed you have to you have to kind of um look into it
yourself and it’s many layers and whatnot a great maybe universal type thing
that i that i just love is um it kind of goes beyond it sets aside kind of judgments and
judgmentalism who’s better who’s right who’s wrong and focus on what’s skillful and wise
and wholesome so i mean those are kind of um that takes a lot of fleshing out but
yeah it’s like a lot of people can just get on the same page with that it means a lot of different things to a lot of different
people but as we as our awareness increases and become more mindful these things
become even more apparent right how how if if if an action is skillful if if if speech is skillful if thinking or
with certain thoughts um and um maybe initiated emotions or skillful or unskillful
same way with whys are they wise or not and then wholesome wholesome or not and
then the wholesome thing it’s not so much as um oh i should do this i should be more wholesome
right it’s more like this is for my benefit so if we put this into practice we
realize that life is just um just it’s hard to describe it’s just kind of smoother
and whatnot uh you know it’s it’s kind of like having we we know that certain mechanisms of
coping are healthier than others right and we can see benefits from that so
and then eventually can get to the point where possibly the
we just get more feedback of of how being wholesome in the world
is for our own benefit and everybody’s benefit so when other people benefit we benefit from it as well
it’s not so much as a goody two-shoes type of thing um some some some of the reasoning is is
escaping me now maybe it’ll it’ll come back a non-judgment reasoning part of mindfulness that i’ve come to understand
is a uh non-judgmental yes approach so like yes you talked about
the skillful and wholesome and wise but when you’re observing these things i
think it’s very important for us to realize like we don’t have to judge yes it’s not
better or worse to be like more skillful or less skillful is not better or worse yes it is just
a range of skill yes a range of wisdom a range of wholesomeness and it actually
truthfully doesn’t matter whether it’s the best or the worst and i think that especially in my life
as i’ve embraced releasing control um it the first step was releasing judgment
about things and it’s super hard to to do this because while we can all
do this i think the most difficult part is the emotional interaction with oneself because we realize how much we do judge
how much our society is built to judge and how much that actually
hurts us all like every one of us is damaged in one way or another because of the
judgment because we have to either judge ourselves as better or worse than someone else
or we are told that we are better or worse than something else we’re better or worse based upon the grades based upon this
and i don’t necessarily know what the framework of a non-judgment society looks like but people are
implementing it all over the place in schools and in community groups um
but my my colleagues and i started a project this year called the north st
louis mindfulness project and we’ll we’ll get to that uh in another conversation
but one of the first steps is to observe without judgment and that’s another definition of
mindfulness it is incredibly challenging but once
you get the hang of it it actually becomes so much more satisfying because you’re no longer rating yourself
in relation to other people you’re no longer i think i’ve had to completely change my success factors
and what i judge myself on and trying to not judge myself because
by by all standards in corporate america i’m not up to snuff but that’s not my
fault i have a skill set that goes far and wider than just a computer jockey
sitting at a desk you know it so maybe i just don’t want their job you know either way non-judgment has
brought me to becoming more familiar with myself and and also um being more gentle
Judgement
i like the word non-judgmentalism but i don’t think it’s skillful to confuse
judging with discernment okay so discernment yes it’s a huge difference it says then some people
will judge themselves for judging right so then it just spirals down like that
matt khan is another teacher um favorite teacher of mine at the moment and his teaching on judgment is
there’s actually can be a silver lining there too so what you said is all very important uh and that’s that’s
that’s that’s i mean that’s the that’s the standard right uh the the thing that goes overlooked is
what i just said a lot of times people will judge themselves for judging but what i think that anybody that’s
even remotely concerned about not wanting to judge other people they’re not really judging
other people or other things because they have that awareness there and they don’t have it now somebody that’s that derives
satisfaction and a superiority from judging now i would call that being judgmental
yeah right they get something out of it yes exactly like yes that’s a great way to put it so
when they they get energy out of it that’s that’s where we’re going so when the but there is a silver lining
when those judgments come up why am i judging i don’t want to jud you know judge this well sometimes that can
just say okay well i see and honor you know your buddha nature your divinity but maybe this isn’t for me right now
you know maybe this is saying something like um this whatever the judgment comes up
that maybe we take a look that maybe that’s there for a reason and this brings up um the ego because
some people have a superior ego but then there’s also the inferior ego like i’m not good enough that’s an ego too
that’s often overlooked and so there’s a classic uh teaching that if i’m if i think i’m
better than someone that’s conceit if i think i’m less than someone that’s that can see and we can kind of both see that the one
that’s a little bit more challenging to see is um on a relative level not an absolute
level is if i’m equal to this person that’s conceit now the way i understand that is that i
can never match david’s unique brilliance nor could he ever match my unique brilliance right so when i’m
trying to get on an equal playing field with someone now i see that there’s certain there’s sure there’s all kinds of
equality like equality of compassion like everybody deserves i think just equal amount of compassion
and you know and um things like this but like overall like
when i say that i’m trying or they can also be a competition like i can try to be in competition do i need to lower
myself or do i need to raise myself so i can get on equal footing with this which is impossible anyway on a relative
level from what i understand so i wouldn’t want to do that either
because it would almost be like potentially i would say this wouldn’t happen but it could be like a gray
kind of hive mind mentality where everybody just kind of comes into a group thing because
they they think they’re equal on all levels um in a way there are ways that we are but
in other ways i wouldn’t want to be you know match equal because that’s the beauty of
in individuality but now how do we balance that with like kind of group consciousness and unity consciousness as well so
that’s another thing so the consciousness can be kind of unified although without having to lose our
individuality and things like that right so i think the uniqueness i think that what you’re talking about is
um very a practical application like it it sounds very lofty in conversation but it’s it’s much more
of a practical application nuts and bolts of this stuff so like coming together as a
group in a non-judgmental way we could
agree that we’re all independent and awesome human beings that will collaborate together on these
things right and and i think it’s uh our own challenges to be accepting and open and loving
in that collaboration right but again it not again but but then there’s the
next level where we come together as a group and agree that we are all
becoming like a hive mind kind of concept and this is where you get into the concept of a high functioning team
because we kind of release our egos she’s totally cold yeah i’m gonna take her inside okay um we uh
we kind of let go of our egos and allow for the group thing to happen but this is a choice right and and we
notice in groups that are not aligned where everybody is not given their own sovereign individuality
that people kind of reject these concepts and [ __ ] the groups right but if we’re all coming together
in complete agreement about our own sovereign wealth and self-worth then we can definitely
have that group think a little bit quicker the group projects it just seems so challenging at this
Group Projects
time you know because so many people are dealing with so many issues do you have any uh examples to look for
if cohesive groups that are really um like kind of role models and
to look for for i don’t know carrying out projects or just interaction or what because i just
that’s blanking on me now just because it’s so challenging right now that is that is actually a really good idea for
another talk because there are plenty of groups that are working on things like this
that have demonstrated good ways to collaborate um and that are not cults and that are not cultured right because
we definitely so a note on the cult if you find yourself
in an oppressive situation cult or not you don’t need to be in an oppressive
situation um if people are telling you how to think and forcing you into certain mental
constructs that is not the truth of life and you can find something better and more
more real for yourself abusive situations do whatever you can to get out of those you need to go stay on a person’s couch
for a little while get out of any abusive relationship that you’re in obviously yeah if we find our own self-worth
SelfWorth
um we can potentially change the situation potentially if it when it
involves others and this is like a whole other wealth of conversation that other people are more specialized in but i
i know that if you’re in a relationship like an individual relationship with
like a a marriage or something like that that
you both have self-worth if one is oppressing the other then it needs to
be a conversation amongst the two and if you can’t agree on it then leave
right then find a way out but i feel it’s very important to recognize the love that got you into
that first and don’t give up on it i mean obviously if you’re in an abusive situation
get out because that’s never going to change but if you or even if it is you have to remove
yourself before it can before but but i do think that you can
come together in this situation um before this is actually the perfect
segue into the last topic but before you ask for a group that demonstrates good leadership and
good uh ways to interact there is a educational platform called mindvalley
yes mindvalley.com and i did that seminar you told me so it’s uh their educational
opportunities are vast and really awesome all their teachers are great but more importantly
if you study the company and if you read the books by the founder vishen lakhiani
he talks about how he has built his team and how through personal development on his part he got
himself in the right spot and continues to get himself in the right spot and then
he’s able to show up and be real for the rest of the group but meanwhile the rest of the group is getting themselves
and doing them their own personal work so it’s more of like finding the group that’s committed to
self-growth and uh committed to these ideals
right and and don’t give up on it you know if you if you can bring it into the group resonance if you
resonate with something in common interests and similar values those are all very important right too
and and don’t settle i think that’s the other thing like if you if you have to be there
then don’t settle for the group performing badly be the one that stands up yes it takes guts and people might shoot
you down but more likely than not if you stand up and try to set it right
people will follow you yeah you’ll give them you’ll get respect too and then you’ll uh you’ll think yourself
down the road as well right right even if it’s uncomfortable at the moment going back to the relationship type things yes the the honor respect
the validation and the value um those are all yeah and then the worthiness you know so
many people don’t feel they’re worthy of whatever too and also allowing allow you know
abundance is um happens with allowing yeah it’s kind of the flavor of elephants with allowing
them the big conversation that we’re segueing into is that
we as people as groups as communities as the civilization on this planet
have the opportunity to stop fighting about all of this we’ve been like i think that the
constructs the framework that we’ve been operating in for thousands of years now has been conquer and overcome
and that’s just no longer true anymore i feel that many people have been
talking about this whether it’s in the sustainability environment stuff like that or politics there have
been these thoughts and concepts for generations if not hundreds thousands of years but we really are coming into a
time on the planet that you me all of us the the whole planet nations industries all of
us can stop fighting because the competition is what’s killing us i feel that collaboration is truly the way
forward and finding out you know we’ve talked about our self-worth and our sovereignness and stuff like that
but we have to do that as individuals so that we can be there for our group and then our group can be there for the
larger group around the world because right now we have everything
like we the the planet is bright and abundant with people and power and like
in any way that you translate those words resources the there is a finite amount of oil on
Competition vs Cooperation
the planet so let’s stop using it you know that that kind of thought process is a really good thing
because we can then discern what’s the best thing to use but we need to stop fighting about
whether oil is the best thing to use on the planet because it’s just not if you look at
all the science and all the information out there there’s so many reasons to move away from that particular thing
seems pretty obvious to us but i guess not well it’s just such an infrastructure entrenched infrastructure
there as well the common thing that the thread that runs through all of life here pretty much in the states anyways
is moving from competition to cooperation right our culture um promotes or has promoted
competition right especially for um kind of the masculine that’s um that’s the thing we which we go in sports and then also
the business world that’s that’s a kind of our challenge and and some of the the more feminine um you know their challenge uh maybe
might be relationships and family and things like that um and it’s you know you mentioned
sports and business so competition is not a bad thing like healthy competition
being sportsmanlike yes i love playing sports i am not on a sports team i do not watch
sports but if you want to go play a game of baseball i will dig out my glove and my bat and let’s go play
because i enjoy playing games with other people for fun and entertainment but i don’t
care about the outcome yes beautiful and you can learn uh cooperation
doing that too right it’s very important yes yes so there’s yeah i don’t want to just shoot down all all of that all at once and uh
generalization the competition is like what is the end result of this competition because
there’s i mean not to throw in these old sayings and stuff but i’ll do it anyway this is like um
winners uh winning gives way to hostility and losers lie down in pain the wise
have set aside winning and losing the fighting thing another old um i
guess axiom are saying is that you know hatred is never overcome by
hatred only by love can be addressed it’s an ancient truth right you can’t fight fire with fire it
just makes more fire you know and and it’s i think the other thing is
we have these words in our civilization such as fight fire with fire it’s very
caustic just in our language about how we approach things because like why does it have to be a
struggle why does it have to be a fight what is the what if what if the world
was such that we all got everything that we needed and wanted as it needed as we needed and wanted it and
really all we had to do was wake up be positive and interact and not have to sign our life away for a job just to be
have our basic need for that you know job that we don’t want to do and no we’re not talking about socialism
just to be clear there’s a lot of there’s a lot of other new stuff that josh and i’ll talk about in the coming
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capitalism either so i think that all of those philosophical words about economic
policies and things like that i think all of those can be revisited and and there are new
ways of thought there are but it comes back to what we were talking about earlier the same level of
the problem can be solved with the same level of consciousness that created it’s all about the inner work and doing
the inner work so when we do go in and interact that we can be at our our the best level because how can i be of
service to the highest degree if i’m not um you know if the level of consciousness and
development is there to begin with right but that’s not to say you can’t do anything until that
start either it’s just it just they constantly reinforce themselves in
health right and i think all of this all of this really comes back down to
being mindful about ourselves and our personal space because that’s where it starts this is i realized
you know i’ve spent years thinking about all these things and that brings me to the conversation that we’re having today
right but i’ve taken action for myself and i’ve really done a lot years of inner work and
countless master classes and introspections internal writings i’m not sure that’ll
work yeah shadow work is not very much it we’re going to confront all of these
things as individuals and it’s not easy uh it’s not necessarily fun but on the
other side when we’re able to realize oh my gosh i’ve changed my life forever
in a good way justify this simple personal interactivity
maybe not simple but personal interactivity well simple but not easy right yes
and uh it’s just like because the pain that we’re trying to run away from hide from cover up
distract ourselves from eventually it’s going to catch up with us anyway right right
you can’t not forever anyway you know but so it’s so when we can be in a decent space or have space
health for us to actually address that and work on that heal that and then also realize if it gets too intense
that there are healthy ways to um to cope with so we don’t have to you
know stare down the barrel of a gun you know that’s great counseling there’s so
there’s so many different mechanisms and coping things too as well so sure yep but yeah great amount today
cool and uh we’ll we’ll sign off there all right i hope you all have a great day thank you so much yes like david
blessing to everyone that’s watching this as well
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