In this April 9, 2024 conversation with Madhuri Pura Dasa — more affectionately known as Madhu — we talk about his journey as a young man finding inspiration in the Bhagavad Gita, so much so it inspired him to ordain as a monk in the Bhakti yoga tradition after turning 18 years old and the his transition back into “normal life” now saturated with service. Madhu also gives some practical basics for wellbeing, the vital importance of the mind, Ayurveda, healing, consciousness, awareness, the opportunities of the rare and precious human incarnation, various ways he connects with divinity, Kirtan, and more
Reach out to Madhu at https://madhu.life with the word “integrating” to get access to a series from his team about integrating meditative practices on a day-to-day basis
Biography
Madhu, formerly a monk, is a Holistic Health & Business Lifestyle Coach who has trained hundreds of health and wellness professionals, coaches and influencers in ancient sciences and helps them create 6 & 7 figure online business. He lived and trained for half a decade as a monk in the Bhakti Yoga tradition. During these years, he travelled extensively studying Vedic arts and sciences under renowned teachers. In his free time he is a professional musician who tours internationally.
About Madhuri Pura Dasa
I was born into a family of yogis, but for most of my childhood I took spirituality for granted. Everything changed when I was sixteen. My father offered to pay me $100 to read the ancient wisdom text Bhagavad Gita. Eager to become a rich teenager, I accepted his offer. However, it completely changed my life and perspective, and touched my heart so deeply that I refused to accept the money!
With a burning desire to dedicate my life to living and sharing spiritual wisdom, I became a monk on my eighteenth birthday. For five years I lived in various monasteries across the United States and India, studying under world renowned teachers and intermittently traveling the world.
When I graduated from the monastery, I was eager to bring my passion out into the world. Not knowing how to build a sustainable career out of my offerings, I traveled profusely for years, working tirelessly to network and arrange workshops where I could share the knowledge and tools I had learned as a monk. But I was struggling to make ends meet, barely covering my travel expenses.
I was overworking my body and mind. Scattered and constantly on the go, I felt enriched by my teaching work, but at the same time my personal and spiritual lives were suffering, and I wasn’t able to spend the quality time with my wife that I wanted. I had settled for this life, accepting that maybe I just didn’t deserve more. I was afraid of what it might take to truly build the life I wanted.
Thankfully, under the guidance of expert teachers and coaches, I learned how to integrate my purpose and offerings into a sustainable business model. I launched Madhu Life and have found an incredibly nourishing balance between my health, spiritual practices, professional life, and relationships. This is the transformation I am inspired to facilitate for all my clients – navigating the various aspects of their lives so that all aspects are balanced and supporting each other!
My mission is to help my clients thrive – physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually! Everyone who works with me hones in deeply on their vision for their life, identifies what is holding them back, builds the structure to support transformation, and expands it to grow exponentially from there!
I love teaching more than anything. I’m passionate about making ancient, transformative Vedic arts and sciences relevant and accessible for everyone, while still preserving their authenticity and purity. First and foremost though, I remain an avid student. This, I strongly believe, is the qualification of a teacher.
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Audio: Mad Service Do’s With Madhuri Pura Dasa
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Ness welcome this is Josh of integrating presence and today I have Madu is that
right and tell us tell us your whole spiritual name uh as well and this is kind of our first time speaking and the
standard question is who is Madu and what does he do sure well the uh short
version of that is H Madu which literally means sweet in Sanskrit and uh for those of you who are watching this
it’s like don’t touch Mau touching my hair here uh it’s a simple way to pronounce it and the full name that I
was gifted as a monk becoming an ordained priest in India per se is
Madura do and dos means servant the whole idea being that uh trying not to
live for being a taker but try to be a contributor and actually be of service in this life and functionally what I do
is try to share the amazing gifts that my teachers have shared with me in terms of holistic health and improving our
overall quality of life through primarily the mindset learning how actually make the only thing in your control which is the mind um work with
you instead of working against you in order to improve your health improve your um wealth especially how to
monetize your purpose and then overall how to just live a life that’s satisfying and feel
successful well beautiful I’m sure you probably get this all the time but um a
monk so early coming from the United States uh what what led up to that you
know how how did that happen and then what’s the monastery life like in the Traditions that you Traditions you’re
involved in certainly well you’re telling me most 18y olds on their
birthday they don’t decide to shave their head and become sell of it I I had been reading different aspects of
philosophy and theology for years even growing up I always had big questions that I couldn’t seem to get any good answers to and I would get a lot of stop
asking those questions or you should just have faith or various answers to these questions I had but nothing that
was really satisfying so when I was 16 years old uh my father actually said I’ll give you $100 to read a book called
The Bad Gita which is a several thousands year a book that is several
thousands of years old teaching the fundamentals of yoga not just from the physical postural gymnastic approach
which is also fantastic U but from yoga which really means uniting with divinity through uh different types of sacred
practices and after studying from the East which I had an aversion to thinking oh this stuff’s woooo or whatever the
case might be um after I actually read that book I went okay there’s something in this there’s something in this stuff
that people have been doing for thousands of years and that really opened me up to studying philosophy and theology from Eastern cultures
especially from the vadas the oldest written literatures that we know of in the world and before I knew it when I
was 17 I was I fully drank the Koolaid in terms of holistic practices and started to see the benefit in my life
has somebody who’s diagnosed with ADHD my whole life and add first and ADHD and all different typ names people give me I
was for the first time actually able to focus and actually able to think and actually be able to feel satisfaction
and so inevitably I kept going down that journey and when I was 17 I wanted to
become a monk because I went to temples and ashrams throughout the US I would visit the summertime and I was like I
want to do this but they were like hey you’re a minor you got to wait till you’re an adult and um and so on my 18th
birthday that’s when I decided let me let me try this because the alternative was go work a job I didn’t want to do to
live a life I didn’t really want to live to live in a box I didn’t want to live in and so I thought it’s got to be I can
always come back to that if I change my mind but while I have this opportunity now let me go live a monastic lifestyle
which is quite militant in many ways you wake up at about 3:34 in the morning do several hours of both uh individual as
well as collective meditations you study for many hours and then you spend your day serving and that’s everything from
teaching meditation to univers at universities to um you know cooking for
the residents there to Leading programs around musical meditation I mean there’s tons of different things you would do depending on one’s unique psychophysical
nature and I’ve spent about five years doing that and since graduating the monastery now I’m becoming a normal
person if that’s what you want to call it well you were way ahead of the game for sure um I’ve actually lived in
Buddhist monasteries not quite that long but um in the in the UK and just a visit
vised in Retreats a couple in the United States but yeah it’s it’s it’s and then these
Traditions are are there’s similar I guess in a little ways but significantly different but yeah it’s pretty wild to
think that you got so inspired uh and did that and what about India how how is
India and before we get jump into a little more depth here well India itself
is a fascinating country in many many ways especially if you come from the West it’s like talk about culture shock um
the primary places I stayed in India were quite Oasis means you know there
were Villages I of course I would travel to the ban cities but that was never so much my style even in America I try not
to travel to Bain cities unless I have to um but we would stay in different types of villages where sometimes they
were I mean many of us study uh the monastic life and the partic particular
tradition we come from is called bakti yoga uh literally means yoga we have the same word cognate in English which is to
yoke uh means to connect or to unite to link up and then bakti means through love and devotion so how to link up to
our highest nature and to Divinity through love and devotion and so there’s many thousands and thousands in some
cases tens of thousands of us um practicing together at different ashrams different communities in India and I
would spend six months a year there and then they kick me out uh for Visa purposes and come back and spend the
other six months in mostly North America but I would travel throughout Europe as well and different other monasteries to
try to get a different flavors per se because as as many can understand living
a very simple life where you you just wear robes and you don’t have to worry about your hair do um and you know
you’re spending most of your days meditating or serving it’s there’s some people whose nature they can sit in one
place do it in one place for a long time but for me I knew especially as a young man I knew it was important to at least
try get out and about and get different experiences keep it somewhat fresh so as to make sure I could maintain in my case
five years of actual uh an actual celibate student monk
life well tell us a little bit about how you by us I mean the audience right so
how you transitioned from that lifestyle did you go into it with the for five
years and then I’m going to leave and then also like what kind of lessons did you learn uh I’m sure there’s tons of
specialized knowledge but I mean you’re welcome to go as as as deep as you want
and also just as broad as you want um what what stands out in that transition period too absolutely well in terms of
becoming a monk typically you do under the guidance of those who are experienc with many decades uh within Asam life or
Monastery living and so is there’s it’s a little different than say if you’re going to go get a degree where it’s like
okay two years for your Associates and four years for The Bachelors Etc it’s more or less you are under guidance you
usually commit to a certain amount of time and then you re reassess so in my case it was like okay become a monk for a year then we’ll reassess and then did
that and then it was like I want to go for two more years and then did one more year and then it it what happens is
under the guidance it gets to a point where it’s like hey I think it’s time to integrate because it’s when you graduate the monastery the whole idea is you
learn as much as you can so when you become a quote unquote normal person you can actually live in this world as a
contributor to society instead of a taker and actually create a type of character that you can really help
others like actually be of service actually be of contribution and so after about four years that’s when I remember
my teachers like hey I think you think it’s time to may start to and I was like no not yet about four and a half years
like yeah okay I’m feeling I’m feeling the pull to to maybe not sleep on the ground anymore actually honestly I
prefer a simple life even still today my wife often has to COA me into like
comfortable things uh because I really do there’s a there is a taste in simplic and and when life is very simple in that
way but um there was a desire to actually experience this world actually grow hair no um you know there’s an idea
of just getting back into society and so for in my case it was about five years but for some people there’ll be a
student mon for one year some people um 15 years whatever the case might be and it’s usually under guidance but as to
your question of what we learned how long do you have no the to oversimplify
it we could say you learn how to serve and that really means again happiness
comes from service the mistake people make in modern society is there’s this idea that if I the more I get then I’ll
be happy if I just get that thing I’ll be happy but uh the people who have all those things they’re not happy and they’ll say stop trying to get those
things doesn’t make you happy and people don’t have those things think yeah but no maybe maybe not everyone else I’m the
exception it’ll make me happy and really if we can create a life where we’re improving our quality of life while
simultaneously improving the quality of lives of others that’s where real contentment and and purpose and satisfaction comes from a sense of uh
actually living a life that’s feel successful and success isn’t a place that’s achieved it’s not when I get the
thing it’s rather when my perfect day looks like most of my days that’s that’s success when I do what I want on a daily
basis in a way that again contributes and so that’s the fundamental principle and there’s various sciences and
technologies that you learn in how to do that so everything from ayurveda which was my particular focus in terms of uh
how to literally become healthier through your diet and through your lifestyle from the ancient holistic practice a vaa literally means the
science of improving the quality of life to say Kiron and Mantra meditation
different types of music for those of you who can see we’ve got a couple of musical instruments here and I’ve always
been into music myself and so I I always liked musical meditation engaging the mind with mantras accompanied by music
which makes the man just a little bit tastier at least a little more accessible for the mind
and so I had different I mean there’s many more I could share but there’s different focuses according to one’s
nature that you study deeper into but the whole idea is how can we take one’s unique nature and one one’s unique gifts
and then figure out a way to amplify Consciousness or amplify the
ability for others to experience quality of life well beautiful so let’s jump into
some of this stuff let’s um what do people need to know about Veda I mean
maybe someone that does is not that familiar with it and I’m actually not that familiar with Kyan I um let’s see
is it Krishna do that’s real popular and uh so so I I I don’t I I listen to so
much music in my 20s but right now I listen to mostly inter um instrumental
you know so I don’t listen to a lot of this and it it’s my nature is not that
devotional in particular I have a meditation practice that I’m devotional to but it is very inspiring to to see
people very devotional towards something that actually matters in life I mean something that’s going to bring uh
contributions to one’s welfare and happiness and to that of others and especially in the long term and um yeah
and talk about some service work through iura Kiran and just anything that just
really comes to mind about serving and promoting well-being uh for yourself for
others you know um on whatever scale you’d like to to discuss yeah well in terms of
fundamentals what what I always like to start with the basics because the basics are the best part of any practice you find something somebody who’s phenomenal
at a practice you’ll know that they mastered the basics and so if we look at what anyone could do today immediately
to start to improve the quality of life which again is literally the practice of ayurveda it’s a completely holist
approach not to disregard modern science big fan if I get in a car accident I’m going to the doctor you know but if I
have a digestive issue I’m going to typically want to take a holistic route and so it’s not that one’s good one’s
bad it’s a matter of knowing what science and where to go for what you’re looking for and so when it comes
to the basics the fundamentals we’re really looking at diet and lifestyle and there’s five elements that I always like
to share that if somebody simply improves these five areas of their life there’s no chance you can’t feel better
there’s a 100% guarantee you will start to notice some difference in terms of again your mental Clarity feeling
comfortable in the body building some strength Etc and uh n of those five
number one is sleep some of these might seem simplistic but there’s a reason
things are cliches there’s a reason things are impressed upon so much and just because it’s simple doesn’t necessarily mean we
should look past it but improving our Sleep Quality is it’s really essential because the easiest way to become a
psycho is just don’t sleep anyone if you’re interested in becoming psycho you don’t have to take a course you could just just don’t sleep for a little while
it’ll before you know it’ll happen you have to sleep and you have to sleep
enough and that’s going to look different depending on one’s body type but in general you must sleep and the way you’ll know if you slept properly is
you wake up feeling well rested it’s really just that simple and uh well there’s a little bit of nuance to it
don’t get me wrong but you have to improve their Sleep Quality number number two is hydration and this is where say unique aspects of ayurva come
in because hydration isn’t just the quantity and usually say if you’re if
you’re using the pound system uh you take half your body weight and drink that many ounces of water a day drink as
long as you drink more than that you should be fine um but there’s also the quality of the water actually drinking
alkaline water especially if you can get um natural spring water water that’s that’s not dead that’s still alive that
that that that’s energized and as well as the temperature the temperature of the water that you’re drinking an example is if you’re
drinking cold water your body actually has to warm that water up to properly assimilate it so closer to body temperature you’re going to absorb more
people drink chug cold water and they wonder why do I pee and always feel dehydrated uh whatever the case might be
so it’s you got to hydrate properly you got to move every day the third one is exercise you got to move every single day uh and get get the body sweating and
actually increase the heart rate on a regular basis number four is diet you have to eat a diet that’s nourishing and
just as we can oversimplify to say if you wake up feeling well rested you know you SLE slept well similarly if you feel
energized after your meal great we know that you assimilated and digested that meal at least decently if not properly
so you have to eat a diet that’s actually nourishing and you are what you eat so eat foods that are actually going to create the life that you want you
know people eat food food that’s very heavy and degrading for the digestive
system and they wonder why their Consciousness gets heavy or digr or they take very stimulating things they wonder
why they can’t ever sit down and shut up the mind or whatever it might be or or they eat Foods based out of violence and
they wonder why do I have all this rage in me whatever the case might be and so we have to eat a diet that’s G to be
nourishing and then the fifth element is you have to get sunlight in the eyes don’t try not to look so much at the sun
directly depending on the time of the day most most time of the day at least uh but you have to get outside and you
have to get fresh a into the lungs you have to actually get sunlight into the eyes earlier in the day is better
certainly but uh in simple we like to say try to wash the sunrise in the sunset if that’s all you do it’s a win
but actually getting outside and getting Sun into the eyes if somebody does just those five improves their sleep quality
which for most people probably means sleeping a little bit more uh number two is hydration actually drinking not
enough water but Quality Water and making sure that it’s actually assimilable temperature wise number
three in terms of exercise just move every day and ideally sweat and get the heart rate up every day and then number
four is uh diet eat something nourishing so after you finish you feel ready to go if you feel sluggish W W uh oh it’s a
indication your body didn’t do super well with that meal and then number five is get outside and make sure you get
some sun in the eyes if th those are fundamentals I mean certainly we can go into many other practices but um if you
do those you’ll feel better 100% of people feel better and no one can perfect those it’s something everyone
can continue to improve if you’re like yeah I already doing it great improve them a little bit more and you’re still going to feel better and then from there
we can start to individualize it depending on one’s unique body constitution in ayurveda things aren’t good or bad it’s what is your body need
that’s going to be pacifying for your situation or aggravating for your situation and so in modern science
there’s this idea of spinach is a superfood everyone needs eat spinach and then another study comes out it’s like
no spinach is a neurotoxin no one eats spinach and another one comes out it’s like actually spinach is good but you got to cook it and there’s it’s
constantly Chang whereas nurva depending on one’s body Constitution you say okay this person you eat raw spinach this
person you should eat cooked spinach and for this person avoid spinach it really depends on what the need of the individual body is that’s ayurveda in
the nutshell well that’s beautiful I couldn’t Echo all that more you know the
the the the type of water is so important the yeah the the diet you can’t pin it down and what about the
people that say oh I’ve got to have my sunglasses I got to look cool with my sunglasses it’s one thing I just got
away from a lot and being up here so far nor North you know especially during the
winter time there’s not as much light up here so sometimes I take you know Vitamin D supplements and but uh just
kind of drinking and um when the sun feels healthy especially and for those
who know about sungazing from what I understand should do it with your eyes closed or at least when right around
sunrise and sunset like you’re saying too so yeah yeah beautiful
um yeah I don’t know if you want to pick up with some of that and where to go from here um tell me a little bit about
Kiran then I’ve seen some pictures on your site and uh what is all what is
that all about sorry I’m just complete beginner on pretty much on this I love
it I I’m a big fan of always considering myself a beginner even if I think I know something uh the only way I can learn is
feeling like a beginner and you find people who are phenomenal at what they do they still treat them yourself like a
beginner so I I myself my friend am also a beginner as far as Kon goes it’s it’s fairly simple and straightforward in
concept uh there’s just a few prefaces there that helps the Mind grasp on to say potentially
New Perspectives of Life uh what kiratan is literally comes from the Sanskrit word to to chant what we’re doing is
we’re chanting Sound Vibrations that are not only healing but that are yoga that actually unite us uh to our Supreme
Consciousness within and and really what that looks like is we’re chanting Sound Vibrations that are not only just
controlling the mind which happens automatically which is good to improve our focus it not only calms our central
nervous system in such a way to help us feel better it not only heals us on a cellular level but those are all
secondary approaches the primary thing it’s doing is giving us a type of divine communion what we do is we chant Sound
Vibrations that are calling out to Divinity now Divinity the cool thing with divinity is uh the unlimited has
how many names is it five is it 10 oh that’s right unlimited when we’re when we’re calling out to Divinity which by
the way for anyone listening if if if any terms that we give there sensitivity that’s okay we I have words that I’m
sensitive to as well what we’re talking about is there’s of course Powers higher than us and if you don’t believe me just
go spend a little time in that that sun we were talking about you know tell them it only takes a certain amount of time
the sun to you go okay there’s definitely Powers higher than me so if we can understand there’s a hierarchy of powers we can understand there’s a highest of all high powers and in terms
of what our mental capacity can understand if if we try to conceive of the highest of all high Powers we can
understand that it’s a force that is fully powerful but also fully compassionate fully loving and then also
omniscient so we’re talking about a force that not only can do anything but wants to do everything for your
individual Ben benefit and knows exactly what would be beneficial for you given your situation we call this a triple OG
Omni benevolent omn omnificent and omnipotent excuse me and then Omni
benevolent this triple OG conception this is
Divinity what we’re referring to it’s just the highest of all high Powers um when we call out to unlimited names
of divinity and especially from the ancient yoga tradition we talk about calling out with sweet names instead of
you know almost powerful it’s like hey friend almost almost beloved almost dear
there there’s a sense of like instead of just creating a type of power differential um the practice of Bak y we
understand that there’s a a friendship there’s actually a deep intimate connection with divinity with the real self the soul the unit of Consciousness
that’s the real you that’s driving around the biomechanical robot AKA human body the real you that Witnesses the
mind it Witnesses the body changing every seven years every cell in the body is completely regenerated so every seven
years we’re reincarnating taking on new carne new flesh new cells new bones Etc
you can’t even look in the mirror you can’t look at the same face in the mirror twice you close your eyes you open them again you’re looking a
different face because the cells are changing every second year so we can understand that the body’s changing the
mind also changes because you can observe the mind and you can actually change the mind so I’m not my body I’m not my mind I’m something Divine I’m a
spirit I’m a soul I’m a unit of Consciousness choose whatever vernacular we so desire so I as a unit of
Consciousness have a unique connection with divinity and one of the most effective ways of bringing about that
connection is through Association just like any relationship you want to cultivate the best way to cultivate a relationship is yes spend time with the
person there’s hardly few better ways to get to know someone than spending time with them you read about them all day
but you got to spend quality time and so the way you spend quality time with divinity one of the many ways at least
uh that’s considered to be the most effective is Kiran or chanting Divine sound where you’re actually divinely
invoking uh the presence of this triple OG The Love Supreme however you want to refer to this um highest of all high
powers and the idea is that I am limited by time and space which means when you
say muu I cannot show up now if I say Josh because you got some Powers I
wouldn’t be surprised if you manifested over here but for most of us we’re Bound by time and space and so but Divinity
isn’t fortunately to what a relief and so that means when I chant Divine names
I actually welcome the presence of divinity where I can spend quality time and actually build a relationship with
the person most dear to us you know in in the heart there’s us the soul and
then there’s Divinity and we can in this Way start to cultivate that relationship so Kiron is one of the many and consider
the most potent ways of having Divine connection so there’s more I can say about that but again that’s that’s an
oversimplification of the practice of Kon well really cool you know in the in the Buddhist tradition U some of these
are called the Brahma viharas the uh the dwelling place of Brahma the the uh
Sublime abiding you know and this is it’s it’s it’s an energetic thing as
well as a Feeling I mean it’s not as as musical in that but I think it’s similar
in the fact of these beautiful qualities of Heart of compassion of of kindness
meta uh loving kindness actually and then rejoicing that’s kind of more like
Kon being happy for other people’s happiness you know and this notion of
equinity this kind of grandparent love that we know that we
want to help so many people but sometimes we just have to let them live their own lives we can’t make their
choices for them we can be there as a guidance and advisor and and help them in so many ways but at the end of the
day they have to make they have to live their own choices and take responsibility for their own lives and
yeah these the they’re boundless qualities too so there is no limit like
no reaches that they cannot reach and yeah and this is whether you’re on like
a Buddhist path path or more of a Divinity path um these qualities I find
are just so amazing you know they’re just so helpful and anyone that practices will um for any amount of time
they can also like be a purifying thing too because we go to do some of these
practices sometimes the opposite thing comes up and but that’s kind of things that have been hidden coming to the
surface to be seen and healed and release I I feel too at least that’s
when I started these practices early on a lot of that happened to me and so and
heart opening as well oh my goodness yeah and Healing Heart healing as well yeah I really value that point and I I
think of that phrase you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink you can bring a man to wisdom but you can’t make him think and you know to
your point is always giving people the opportunity to make change but never trying to expect it because I if
Divinity won’t even mess with our free will then uh who do I who do I think I am to try to control someone or force
them it doesn’t work and and I really like this approach that you mentioned you know with Buddhism it’s such a beautiful practice especially uh you
some of the more traditional approaches which you know Buddhism which comes from also India so when I lived in India I studied quite in-depth I mean Buddha
from India of course and uh nowadays mostly what we consider with Buddhism is
May Buddhism which is a particular type of practice which it kind of migrated more North but you know Buddhism is an
ancient Indian practice and so I I got to study it quite in depth and it’s really fascinating how
a lot of these things are mentioned in the ancient yoga literatures which are which predate even any modern religion
you know when we’re whether we’re talking about Hinduism or Buddhism or jism or or whether you’re going to more
abrahamic religions like uh Judaism Christianity um Islam
Etc you understand that uh there’s certain fundamentals that anyone can relate to to your point is is no matter
what designation you are no matter what religion no matter what race no matter what color no matter what gender all these things are external but the one
thing that isn’t external the self the soul is that’s the area we can actually relate on and that’s why I always
resonated with Yoga practices it it’s nonsectarian and it means wherever you’re at you can add these practices
into your life which will improve the quality of life and also help you to connect with other Souls other living
entities in a much more deep and intimate way as opposed to creating these type of divides I’m a this one
with that and then rather saying okay I might be this or that but ultimately I’m a soul and you’re a soul too and that’s
where we’re actually equal in our constitution it says you know we’re created equal but uh no one looks like
me I don’t look like anyone else so how are we actually equal it’s obviously on the level of the self or the soul and so
to your point it’s just so nice so nice isn’t the word it’s so relieving and
comforting to have these practices that any human being can go back to and actually feel some deep purpose and
satisfaction from well sure absolutely you know and going back to the Buddhist things it was
said you know the yoga practice say they were around a long time before him and he went and learned the janas the
absorptions I think they’re called Dias and those and and end offering a a job and leaving those uh but go on to do his
own thing but yeah this notion of interconnectivity I think it’s a really
important point and some people that are I’ve heard on the Divinity path some teachers that everything is an
expression of divinity and it makes sense because how could it not be I mean if there’s if if there’s a a Divine that
then then just everything would be an expression of divinity and you know I don’t want to get into like religious
things here there’s a few really tough you know religious questions and things like well why would the Divine Express
themselves in this way and that and of course I hear different explanations but I want to um focus more on the the
interconnectivity of kind of all things nothing really exists in a vacuum right
we can’t be separate from anything we’re we’re we’re interdependent interconnected on um everything around
us and our environment from the food we get the clothes we wear that you know
the shelter we have all the people and all the causes and conditions that went into having these things that we a lot
of times at least I know for me take for granted every day you know and
how gratitude for these things or just a simple acknowledge ment of the things we Overlook and helps with our awareness
practices as well by um just acknowledging mundane things that are um
there to potentially support us or at least become aware of as well so and
then knowing of course where we only have so much time where to focus our
attention on things that are going to bring about the greatest happiness for ourselves and others in the long run as
well yeah you only got one one attention you can only play place it in one place at a time even multitasking is just the
practice of going back bringing your attention back and forth and so yeah what what a sanguin point that because
where we put our attention is where we go and where as I say where attention goes energy flows and
so actually finding valuable places to place our attention and and and to
situate our attention that’s not only going to provide yeah happiness and satisfaction but really like you mentioned that sense of deeper purpose
not just like I’m happy no I’m s but actually a can deep contentment and um yeah I I I love I love some of the
points that you’re making too because yeah religion aside it’s there’s so much value in these teachings like uh whether
whe one one might have a gut trigger reaction to say something in Buddhism which is it’s okay I’m triggered by
things too but first step is like oh yeah wait problem’s probably not that the problem’s probably me if I’m getting upset by it that’s probably like what do
I got going on internally here but you know some of these points that budha makes
that you know when Buddha comes because actually Buddha was mentioned in the viic literature that he’d become in
about 2,000 years and many many of these great personalities actually mention and
what he really does is establish pieace AA nonviolence a sense of
um really ex uh accessing is the word a
sense of purpose which really means gratitude as you mentioned here because gratitude is the master of all emotions
it’s the mother of all emotions it’s like gratitude actually allows us to see things realistically when we look at
life and we really consider everything that we have in life as a gift that means we’re just seeing life
realistically we’re seeing it in Truth to the extent we’re not feeling grateful we’re we’re in an
illusion we’re and and real gratitude uh or let’s say real happiness comes from
real gratitude which means seeing things as a gift because just to become a human is phenomenal I don’t think I know I
didn’t think enough about the chances of becoming a human versus not becoming a human you know I mean
it at the risk of saying something like mind twisting is it takes so much
physical energy in a male body to make blood and then it takes many
drops of blood to create vital fluid which then impregnates the egg at a woman to create human form of life and
out of all of those opportunities for life of the vital floors how many of them actually will ever create a human a
very very infinitesimal amount and out of how many of those eggs how many actually grow to become humans that live
like if we actually look at the astronomical chances of becoming human it’s it’s it’s just it blows our mind
and so human life alone is a gift what to speak of being in a place where some of your basic needs of Life are meant so
that you can access the amazing gift of human life which is the pre prefrontal cortex where you could actually ask
questions and say what is the burp in life what am I actually meent to be doing here I mean talk about a GI we
can’t conceive of a better gift in our our conception just the fact that we’re making mouth noises and we understand
each other that’s so crazy in a way but the metaphor I use use a lot of times is
you can go get a five gallon bucket full of Rich dense soil and there’s probably
more life forms in that than human beings on the face of the Earth you know the the classic metaphor that’s used is
it’s a blind sea turtle um that comes up every I don’t know how often it would
happen to poke its head through a hole in a piece of ocean Driftwood that’s how
rare a human birth is you know and how many of us take it for granted and one of the most profound things we can do I
once I heard this I was like is this right really it is speak to another human being and you know it is really a
thing that we take for granted and Society um but what all this points back
to me too is another thing of generosity you know being generous is just so
incredibly important and it’s not just our money you know it’s our attention how many billions upon trillions of
advertising dollars are spent you know our expertise just our presence you know
to be there with someone just to be offer hey is everything okay is there anything I can do how can I can I help
in any way what can I do you know this this notion of generosity it is um where
I feel that anybody that’s not even in this game yet which I feel is the only
game in town you know it’s generosity is where it all starts and that’s it’s
that’s what it’s about beginning off for sure and generous to ourselves
too yeah I mean I couldn’t say it better at myself and and the cool thing is this is objective and verifiable I like
things that are objective and verifiable myself things that not that I can just empirically perceive because the mine
can only experience so much I mean the eyes thes I’m grateful for them but they can’t perceive so much you can’t even see the closest thing to your eyes which
is your eyelids you know there’s only so much the eyes can see but still it’s important to do our due diligence and so
when it comes to generosity we can see people who uh claim happiness always always give it to
generosity and towards service and because contribution is really where happiness comes from at least it’s
situated happiness and again you don’t believe me just ask somebody with all the things you think want and say these
things make you happy they say absolutely not and if they’re happy you clarify what’s making you happy because
they’re not going to St these things I mean they make my be comfortable I’m grateful we don’t get me wrong I like to live a
comfortable like we get all the highest quality foods I love living a house in Southern California I love being near
the beach like don’t get me wrong do what you want to do and know that that’s separate than happiness and so service
actually actually giving not only does it create an experience in internally where you feel
good but but it’s actually where happiness comes from because relationships are the most important things to us that’s why if I said here’s
I’ll give you a trillion dollars right now today and I’ll give you the biggest house you ever could see but you can’t ever see another living entity again no
human no animals Etc you’re alone no one’s taken that and even if they do they’ll regret it in a few days and
change their mind because nothing is more important you know we’ll give up even our our health to have a quality
relationship in our life and that in itself is just quite indicative of the most important place to put our attention is cultivating high quality
relationships and because what we do know is that we are
witnessing things that are changing around us like again the mind or the body and matter around us but we know
that we’re still perceiving it and so um there two options is that either we go into nothingness when we die or we don’t
go into nothingness and uh we don’t know we won’t know one way or the other I mean cool if you want to anyone want to
go on rabbit holes reincarnation nowadays on YouTube it’s definitely enough verifiable proof of that the soul
does go on but even if even if you didn’t have the proof it’s like if we had to choose one or the other I’m
definitely going to choose the idea the soul continues on instead of goes into somethingness and goes into nothingness or whatever the case might be and so
being that uh we likely can carry on
even past when this body is done the one thing that the only other thing we can really carry is relationship with other
souls and so by cultivating that now is uh there’s hardly more valuable places
to put our attention that’s for sure totally agree you know the and we can
test this in our own experience too we start with the intent to to be generous
and then when we’re giving a gift we pay attention to how we feel and the thoughts in the mind the emotions the
feelings in our body before we give while we’re giving the gift and then afterwards and we and it’s it’s a
practice and we can see how this effects our experience yes now yeah the um
the the the rebirth or you’re you’re calling reincarnation you know it’s just
yeah exactly I think that’s for a a YouTube rabbit hole and it’s a little bit beyond my pay grade at least to know
how to speak about it but uh yeah you know it’s the nice thing about these is
these practices they’re beneficial here and if there if and when there is Beyond well then more than likely you
know since skillful actions have skillful results wise actions have wise results there we are well Madu how about
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that will bring satisfaction to the points you were so well so nicely
bringing up um that we were talking about is ask yourself this
question how may I surf how may I surf because not only is that going to put you in a SI situation psychologically
where you’re you’re not going to be looking how can I exploit how can I get things from others and from life but
it’s going to put one in a mindset of like oh yeah how can I how can I actually be a contributor because again where attention ghost energy flows if
we’re focusing on like how can I actually be a contributor not only are you going to be happy as a as a
byproduct that’s just what’s just going to happen naturally uh but you’re you
will inevitably live a life that you will look back and go dang I’m happy I
did that like wow what I’m so stoked about how many people’s lives I improved
by doing seemingly small things or large things and so the question is how can I
be of service and always meditating how can I be of service how can I be of service how can I be of service and if you do that you will be successful in
life your days will feel successful your life will feel successful and then ultimately the life you’re looking for
will become attainable beautiful medu and may all beings
everywhere realize their highest service for the benefit of themselves and for
other beings and may all beings everywhere realize Awakening and be free
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