A January 9, 2024 chat had Dean Graves and I discussing a multitude of distortions and what this means for awaking, what awaking even means as well as the terms “hierophant delusion”, “self”, “enlightenment”, “consciousness”, and “mindfulness.” Dean also provides a metaphysical framework from how he sees the bigger picture then goes on to explain his work with the Arcturians, free energy, the influence of negative entities and plenty more like wanting, movement, separation, freewill, unconsciousness, etc.
About Dean Graves
My story is simple and, in many ways, is remarkably unremarkable. For approximately 50 years of my life, I led a typical American life. Around my 50th year, I began to meditate and through that meditation have been able to glean significant information and insight into the topics that I have taught to others for 20+ years. The information isn’t totally unique, in that it has been provided to humanity in various forms throughout humanity’s history but it has repeatedly been systematically distorted and/or lost.
Biography
Dean Graves is a renowned meditation teacher, mental health counselor, and spiritual guide with over 20 years of experience in the field. Through his expertise in mental health and deep spiritual understanding, he provides a holistic approach to healing and growth. With his compassionate and insightful guidance, he has inspired and empowered people from all walks of life to embrace mindfulness and meditation as a path to greater self-awareness and spiritual awakening.
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Audio: Decimating Distortion With Dean Graves
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hey out everyone out there and internet lands wholeness and welcome this is Josh
toold of integrating presence and today I have Dean Graves joining me Dean how’s
it going today it’s going great Josh thank you for asking I hope it’s going well for you also it is it’s not bad
here no complaints right now good so the standard format and this will be no
different um who is Dean Graves and what does he
do well Dean Graves is my label um I
am um a person a man and I am an
experiencing an Incarnation and in the course of that Incarnation I’ve the
first 2third of my life uh has been a normal life existence um
in participating in most of the chaos that the
world experiences and about uh my somewhere
around my 50th year about my 50th year I began a process of meditation and
spiritual exploration and that has dominated the last 23
years and so my objective the purpose of my
I do a couple of podcasts and I’ve written several books uh in the purpose of all of that as well as I I uh teach
meditation have done so for about 20 years um is to provide people with
truthful information as well as guidance in their
own healing from distortions and which is the process of
in Enlightenment and through that process um help people experience greater
happiness I love this notion too and my fiance in particular as well about how
there’s so many distortions uh you know delusions to and deceptions but yeah
it’s like especially in spiritual Community you know there’s a lot of people with a lot of great ideas and uh
eagerness and willingness um to find a path be on a path practice the path and
um and a lot of teachers too and especially me included you know I invite
people for the most part um to point out any distortions that I may be propagating
because there are some that are significant uh fairly significant that
that can get people detracted from where they need to be on the spiritual path uh
and some I think are more benign and some maybe might be more Insidious and
depending on the origins of them and things behind them as well this this is
my feeling so why don’t we just jump in there what you said about this since I
just mentioned distortions um instead of I’m also fascinated too about how you know you
you got into all this if you had experiences early on meditating and then of course we can get back to this you know what types of meditation do you do
and things like this because you know that’s a big part of my path too but as far as distortions go
um what would you call a distortion or how would you define that and then um
how do you get people to identify them and then um what would be the term to
counter a distortion you know to undo a distortion to see things I guess clearly
uh with Clarity and in a non-distorted manner of seeing things how they
actually are okay um everything that we
experience is a distortion um and when I say everything
I mean everything and the process of we are Consciousness everything that we exper
experiences Consciousness Consciousness in and of itself is a distortion uh the process of that we are
participating in is the evolution of
Consciousness the evolution of Consciousness is synonymous with the process of
Enlightenment everyone is enlightened to the degree that they have allowed themselves to become
enlightened they we will continue
to surrender distortions as we evolve the more
quickly that we can surrender those distortions the more quickly we will
evolve more quickly we will progress along the the path the spiritual
path um the path is unique to every one of this we exist within a range of
consciousness range of Consciousness is generally identified as the third
density um we are intoxicated with free
will Free Will is the perception of separation and philosophers have argued
for centuries about what whether we have free will we don’t have free will yada y
y but the choice of being able to turn right or to turn left is the product of
Free Will Free Will is actually because we perceive ourselves is separate giving
us the opportunity to choose how we follow the path of Enlightenment how we
follow the path of Consciousness Evolution and so consequently those who
are deeply intoxicated with free will are in the most chaos those people that
have begun to take control of their path
their evolution and develop
awareness are able to use that awareness to narrow the the wanderings From the
Path the more we’re in the more we’re in the weeds the more chaos and pain and
suffering we experience and so consequently the process
becomes evident to us when we have gained enough awareness that
we can see more clearly who we are what we’re doing what our purpose is and by
virtue of that take control of that we learn by the process of analogy we learn
by trial and error by um having experiences and we are designed to
experience what we don’t like so that we will know what we do like when we
encounter it the distortions most a large number of which are
self-imposed um causes us to
um stay in that that state of chaos and we experience unhappiness as a
result of that we’re all motivated to get more of what we like what we like differs from person to person but as we
progress along the path then that difference Narrows so that we like the
same thing more and more so as we progress far beyond our range of
Consciousness that again is the same process but it is a narrowing of the
deviations From the Path and um awareness is our tool that we use at
this point everyone has awareness those that remain in chaos the chaotic stages
of our development have that awareness pointed outside of them they’re trying to
manipulate the world in order to conform to their perception of
self and so in that is Perpetual chaos Perpetual pain Perpetual suffering U
because it by its very nature it can’t fulfill our our needs and so
we when we awaken and Awakening is is misunderstood topic Awakening is nothing
more than that realization that all the stuff that I’ve been doing from my life
beginning until now isn’t working it’s not getting me more of what I like and
I’m not happy and so that is an awaking that’s it that’s all there is to it so once you
feel that not think that but feel that that something’s got to change and you
realize well the only thing I can change is me then you invert that awareness from
outside of yourself inside of yourself and that inversion allows you
to begin to start throwing these distortions that you have incorporated
into your perception of self away and what is left is in incrementally it is
more and more your authentic self and that authentic self is what
allows us to begin to experience less self less stress less suffering and
to become more closely aligned with the past that provides us with greater
happiness happiness results when we experience less
stress stress and you had mentioned this in our pre-programming topic stress is
nothing more than not getting more of what we like we have expectations based
upon our experiences when those expectations are not met then we experience
stress and that’s like getting hit in the head with the TU four for one time if we keep doing the same
thing and we get the same results which we will that’s suffering because we keep
hitting oursel in the head with the tub four over and over and over and over by inverting that awareness we can become
aware of these beliefs which are all our perception of self is it’s beliefs about
who we are and we can begin to heal what is
called the emotional baggage which is the unresolved lessons that have been brought To Us by our life experiences we
get to carry that in the form of emotion we can heal that emotion that emotional
baggage as we do that we have greater awareness because we
liberate our Vital energy and energy the energy is what fuels it’s called
intelligent energy and that’s what fuels our awareness it’s the gas that goes into the car awareness being the tool in
the car that gets us there and so as we do that we experience
greater happiness because happiness is what is left when you reduce stress
Bliss is the absence of stress you no longer experience
stress and so incrementally as we progress along this path we incrementally get happier
Dean you said a lot of stuff there and I I’m I’m on board with a lot of it I wanted to to go deeper and clear up a
few things too sure um so the one thing that really kind of
huh or a couple things right away um that that people would self-impose
distortions on themselves okay and I can re I can list these again if we we need to go back and go so that’s that’s
curious why would anyone want to do that the other thing that came up was um um
that Consciousness itself is a distortion uh is what uh what I think I
heard you say too everything is a distortion including Consciousness so that’s fascinating too um and then that
leads me to go in further of now this is kind of more maybe for meditation nerds
and uh people um wait a minute diing
n well you know that it’s a it used to be a der yeah used to it used to be a prora
but now it’s actually a compliment so yes practitioners I like practitioners much better too so yeah yeah but what is
self according to you you know what is the definition of self and I asked this uh to quite a bunch of uh spiritual
practitioners you know Define self what is that and the okay and then as long as
were on definitions uh and you mentioned some of it already I think we should Define some of the the the the really
key terms here not in just what you just said but overall in general you know
what is the difference between Consciousness awareness you know even attention and mindfulness these kind of
core terms the that the territory we kind of um getting into and then um I
think that’s enough for now I I I do want to get into this notion of our want in our needs and um def uh defining H
how a lot of people define happiness by you know uh getting their their desires
fulfilled you know uh until the next one comes up and the next one and the next one so yeah we we can go into that so
there’s plenty thrown out there and I’ll just be quiet and get out of the way and and hear okay well you’re gonna have to
guide me some of your questions CU you sure a lot of questions yeah that’s that’s a lot so that was just go ahead
well let’s treat uh uh meditation first when when I uh am teaching my classes my
meditation classes I emphasize to people that we simultaneously exist in both the
metaphysical world and the physical world while we remain unaware and don’t
meditate then what we experience is the physical world and I call the physical
world The Village that’s where we have our experience es we have experiences for one purpose
and one purpose only is to provide us with the opportunity to become more
aware and uh in the village are all problems our
metaphysical existence that is concurrent and participatory with our
Physical World experience I call the guru’s cave when we meditate when we go
into deep meditation then we are are visiting the guru’s cave there are no
problems in the guru’s cave and so consequently when we develop a
meditation practice we learn to take that feeling of being in
the guru’s cave with us when we go back into the village that’s
mindfulness when we are able to take that presence of mind that that inwardly
directed awareness with us back into the village same problems exist but our
perspective of those problems dramatically changes and that is being mindful because our awareness is
inside we are the the funnel or the um
experiencer when we send our awareness outside of us then we are no longer the
experiencer we are the participant and and co-creators of problems until people
reach that stage of awareness then they are perpetuating
their um their pain and
suffering so what was another question that you had that that that’s beautiful
that defines mindfulness I I love that’s a very unique definition of how to define mindfulness and thank you for
that um now awareness and Consciousness uh let’s let’s why we’re undefining
terms yeah okay um Consciousness is all of creation is
consciousness no consciousness exists outside of creation uh creation the purpose of
creation is so that the one independent Creator might know Itself by experiencing
itself and in order to do that if you’re all that is then you have great
difficulty experiencing yourself and so the process began and I won’t go into to great detail in our
conversation because it would take the rest of the afternoon but uh the Creator created an environment that is called
intelligent Infinity he projected he she it projected uh two concepts one concept
was Infinity the parallel concept but not merg concept was Intelligence which
created the environment for the Creator to project the first Distortion the first
Distortion was Free Will and by projecting free will into the
environment of intelligent Infinity created the Creator as the subject the
originating the real Creator is the creator is the object was outside of cre
creation projected within this environment the concept of free will the
first Distortion which created the Creator is the subject thereby the first
the Creator having it a projection of itself to
interact with and observe and learn of itself by virtue of
the uh decisions opinions whatever you want to call it that the Creator as
subject um experienced the Creator as the subject
having the same objectives of Desiring to know Itself by experiencing itself
began to create all that we experience as creation and so the Creator is the
subject being a distortion all of creation is a distortion of the one
truth that exists which is all the all is one and so consequently our
Evolution we are way down on the scale as far as the evolutionary process
we are intensely intoxicated with Free Will and Free Will acts as an intoxicant
because when you take drugs or you do alcohol or whatever when you’re high on
some substance then what it does is it lowers your awareness
and so consequently considering free will to be an
intoxicant our awareness is very low relative to the
originating source as we began this process we are
in we are experiencing third density but there is a fourth fifth
sixth seventh and eighth density eighth density being the Creator as the subject
object uh in seventh density one of the behaviors that emerged is the inherent
characteristics of the Creator became delineated and those inherent
characteristics are awareness love wisdom unity and
Stillness and they are hierarchical in the course of Evolution because
awareness is the foundation we are in the found a beginning stage of building
the foundation you have to have the foundation before you build the walls you have to have the walls before you build the roof and so
forth so we are learning awareness our task in this range of
Consciousness is to become aware and then through the process
becoming awareness so we will become the first phase um inherent
characteristic of the Creator in order to prepare to move on to Fourth
denry this is really fascinating um and I like uh some of the Divinity teachings
that I’ve studied before uh this is a really unique take on that and and some
of the metaphysics like that I don’t usually get too far into that although I do follow a lot of this and and hear um
people’s uh systems and and how they um classify these things and I find it
fairly helpful with with it within that mode of understanding um grab me was
this notion of that self um our Free Will is an intoxicant and I just keep
thinking about here in America people with presented with like Amazon look at
Amazon right I could buy all this stuff on Amazon right I mean it’s just endless
endless shopping endless strip malls you know then we can even get into experiences you know for people that are
like uh you know that that have meditative experiences and Retreats and
on and on and on it goes um you know we could we could I can have this experience you know this type of thing
and I think this leads us into this next um section about our next topic of
definition is self what is the self what is what is your definition of a self and
then I think this is where we could maybe chat a little bit about how identity and identifying with things uh
plays into this notion of this uh self of a self creating a self uh what I want
to hear your take on it and what you okay well the our perception of self is
synonymous with our mind a mind is nothing more and the self is nothing
nothing more than a bundle of beliefs that we have Incorporated either
consciously or unconsciously most of our beliefs we’ve taken on by virtue of
Osmosis of our parents surroundings and so forth
um this creates the hierophant we are
designed to create a hierophant a hierophant is just a false perception of
self it is our identity and it is synonymous with our
ego you can exchange you can substitute either of those uh words for the for the
same thing um this bundle of beliefs begins from the minute that we
enter third density We Begin third density everyone begins third density in the same condition which is described as
primordial darkness which simply means we don’t know anything we we are
um we are experimente uh exploring ourselves and
in order to if you’re a scientist and you’re beginning an experiment you want to create as an um experimental bias
free uh experiment as possible and that is what we do by
beginning in primordial Darkness and we are designed um we have what’s a blueprint
for how we process thoughts all of creation has a blueprint of some sort of
how they process thoughts and our blueprint requires us or it guides us to
create this hierophant the hierophant is the false perception of self we in our identity we
modify this perception of self every time we have an
experience um we perceive experiences to be contiguous and linear but actually a
single thought is a complete experience we are obligated with every
thought to make a decision about that thought and that decision very simply is
either it feels good and I like it or it doesn’t feel good and I don’t like it
that is a complete emotion there’s no emotion other than that our experiences
are a point in time experience we are in a condition of being before we process
the thought we process the thought decide we like it or we don’t like it because it feels good or it doesn’t feel
good then we modify our condition of being our herant our identity our ego we
modify that after every thought just a very minute change if it if we like it then we keep it if
we don’t like it then we probably will keep it also but what we’re supposed to do is that well that’s not that’s not
working I’m gonna throw that one out but until we become adequately aware by
inverting this awareness and becoming aware of what it is that we’re
experiencing we can’t throw it out we keep popping ourselves in the head with
that too before over and over and over trying to make the world conform to our
expectations uh this was the teachings of the stoics in philosophy become aware
of yourself and every be aware that every experience stresses our teacher it’s
bringing us the opportunity to become aware of what about us we need to
change but we don’t recognize that as a rule yeah especially for folks who
identify with uh I guess more emotional based beings uh or um feeling based
beings instead of thought-based beings if if we can put it that way this notion of mindfulness of pleasant unpleasant or
neither Pleasant or unpleasant is really helpful I found
because just like you say the way I put it is that yeah we if we’re not especially if we’re not aware that
something is Pleasant unpleasant or not either of those uh then what the tendency is is to grab on to what’s
Pleasant and want more of it and then get bummed out when it’s gone and then
when something’s unpleasant the the tendency is to to to get it away uh I
don’t want any more of it and I want to protect myself from being in any
unpleasant um situations or any things that are associated with unpleasantness and if there isn’t really
this kind of emotional charge one where or the other Pleasant unpleasant then the tendency is just kind of to zone out
you know this neutrality uh it’s not very interesting um sometimes it kind of
I know in my experience I’ll just kind of drift off or oftentimes it takes uh well I want to
look for an emotional charge and I want to look for something pleasant or unpleasant so at least I can you know um
get something hang on to something or push something away so yeah the subtlest
one you know in deep States of meditation when there isn’t a lot of sometimes when there isn’t a lot of
pleasantness or unpleasantness there’s more of an equinity um I guess this this can be
more seen and known and felt well when you surrender when you Surrender Your
perception of self then that’s very
pleasant that’s why meditation feels so good absolutely and because we’re not trying to maintain an identity and we’re
not really identifying with a lot especially identifying in my experience identifying with a lot of things that I
normally meditate I mean identify with on the outside you know um so you know
uh I I don’t think it’s it’s hard for a lot of us to let go entirely of identity
but I think it’s very helpful but at least to examine what are we identifying with you know yeah you’re saying who
know thyself you know are we identifying with you know um all kinds of
things that aren’t helpful are we at least temporarily identifying with things that are helpful until we can
even let go of those as well yeah now the um the now you do you remember
mentioning that Consciousness itself is Distortion what did you mean by that um
well creation itself is a distortion of the the law one and yes okay now it makes sense the
going back on what you said about that um now Dean Switching gears here just a
little bit perhaps you have this um you’ve been known to um channel the
arcturians is that right or what is your work with the arcturians or what can you say about that um uh this notion um
because I’m fascinated by that as well uh Earth has uh known uh the population
of earth is known Earth has been a a second chance planet so all of the population that has been
experiencing Earth for the last 75 76,000 years which is the the tenure of
a third density experience and has a beginning and a very definitive end uh has failed to graduate from a
third density experience elsewhere uh and we are an accumulation of 16
different um non-graduating third density populations from other planets
other solar systems and so forth
um the creation has expanded our universe
within the uh creation has expanded by groups of nine Stars every
Star is home to an archetype of the Creator our universe is comprised of the
five inherent characteristics all of which are archetypes types of the Creator and four
distortions one of the one of the distortions is Free Will Free Will participates in all
creations uh we also have three other
um distortions that are archetypes of the creator that contribute to our
experience um one is movement we perceive ourselves to be in constant movement we perceive ourselves to be not
only free will separated from others but there is another archetype that
intensifies that and so we perceive ourselves to be separate uh the last Distortion is a
distortion of a distortion which is unconsciousness it is our task as we
evolve through this system through this process as to become aware and consequently
overcome that unconsciousness which is a relatively Elementary level of progression through
our range of Consciousness but we will still be perceiving ourselves in constant motion and perceive ourselves
to be extremely separate but as we progress towards the upper ranges of
this density the the density is divided into to Dimensions so if you if you
think of the a density as a mile and these dimensions are inches within the
mile you give there’s more than inches in a mile but just
for concept wise uh as we progress towards the upper dimensions of this
density then the authenticity of of our distortions
diminishes our perception of the
authenticity of uh who we are greatly diminishes we have the opportunity to
experience that condition of being in the guru’s cave
and um getting a peak behind the curtain of
what is yet to come in the next density uh so we are surrendering the
authenticity of the physical world which is a concept that is produced by the
lowest two densities the first two densities are considered foundational densities the first density is inorganic
matter the second density is organic matter plants and animals and those two
densities are foundational densities because they are necessary for us third
density to have a physical world experience we have to have food we have
to have you know the uh accoutrements that are provided that we take from
first and second density and the authenticity of that
physical world uh diminishes uh we and we get Peaks behind
the curtain when someone does a um hallucinate
hallucinogenic that more often than not if they are willing to surrender
their um identity enough the authenticity of their identity enough
then they most almost always will have a good trip if they’re not if they’re
firmly dwelling within their chaotic stage then they’re not going to have a good trip they’re going to have a bad
trip because it’s a challenge to their perception of who they think they are and so um as we progress then we get
Peaks behind the curtain for example uh love love is not an experience that we
will have in this range of Consciousness but we get Peaks behind the curtain and we misunderstand love
love is not something that we can get nor is it something that we can give so
when we have felt love we feel that love because the person or the situation that
we are in at the time has allowed us to feel comfortable enough to surrender our
false identity and we feel who we already are we feel the love that we already are
and that’s that’s immutable to everybody there’s no Variety in that when you surrender that identity you feel your
authentic self and damn that feels good but then that identity comes back in so
I need to put the identity up and we slip back into that
experiential chaos beautiful you know it’s uh it’s
like then the challenge also becomes you know moving in and out of the village right uh how do we allow for more of
that to happen when we still have to walk around remember our names Social Security numbers all this yada y basic
things you know and how can we let that you have your papers with you yeah you’re right
exactly but I I don’t think the the so uh how did the uans come into this oh
the arterian are the arcturians are just another nine- star system uh and they speak to us they have
long been involved they’re much older ninestar system than what we participate
in geographically with it they’re within our our galaxy um we are near the
fringes of the Milky Way galaxy uh they are much more towards the center uh
geographically they we would say that they’re approximately 2600 light years
away but actually there’s no dist there’s no distance distance is a is a
is erronous perception that we have because of our limited uh Consciousness level so they are Keen they have been
involved with us for a long time there are other ninestar systems that also can
cont tribute the pleadians of different nine star system uh I just don’t
communicate with them I don’t talk I I can I I I have chatted with them I’m not
a vocal Channel I don’t feel comfortable doing that my direct communication is
more centered to our nine star system and um you know I I know where I come
from I know my past lives I’ve had you know past lives and Earth before I know
who it was and all that kind of stuff and it is just another perspective that
they offer of the same information uh they are more they’re didactically
oriented they want to teach they want to provide us with the information um in the the podcast that I
do and one of the things I’m editing is they provided us the schematics for a free energy
system that uh really sounds really marvelous I’m I’m not an engineer so I’m
not I’m not going to build it but um everyone can have their own
Energy System that is a a handheld device that will power your home power
your office power your uh car uh no longer will we need any dependency on
fossil fuels um three or four of these things can run a whole fact
there there’s no moving parts so there’s no depletion of of um
resources things of that nature uh Dean the the free energy thing is totally
fascinating followed it for a little bit uh what I what I hear a lot is the people who have discovered these devices
by one means or another um you know usually what what I’ve been told Happ
but I have no firsthand account experience of this is they they quickly the the patents get B bought up by you
know rich people or the security state or they if they try to go forward with it themselves they something happens
tragically to them a lot of times um right or you know either they get discredited um you know their reputation
gets thrown away they get threatened yada yada on and on and on so I’m
interested uh not you can follow up on that what I’m really interested in though is the um uh I guess would throw
it back to your meditation Journey then too uh if there’s anything significant worthwhile to say of when this level
when these levels started opening up how they did um and then also interested in
because I don’t I don’t Channel um and I I don’t really talk about these higher levels in my own personal experience but
I am fascinated to learn of others um because what I’ve heard too is if people
do traditional channeling sometimes if they just open themselves up to you know
uh uh then they don’t a lot of people don’t know what coming in right is dangerous well yes so that’s why I don’t
Advocate just doing that type of thing now some people and I’m imagining or guessing that you you’re in full
conscious awareness when you’re in communication it would just be similar to talking to another human being in a
way or communicating with it we chat yeah literally we we just chat Y and
then the other and then finally the this group little group of questions here then how do you discern you know um or
have you had beings coming to you that cloak themselves as like a being of light but actually they’re they’re not
what they’re presenting themselves to be and they’re they don’t actually don’t have the greatest of intentions or
there’s some kind of other um ulterior motives or you know just just something
a little off or not what they’re they’re saying they are you know yeah and I went through a period of about five years and
and I still get visitations but you can feel the difference you can feel their energy and uh you learn to challenge
them uh by challenging you know I simply say you come in the love and the light of the one infinite Creator and that in
and of itself is not of is enough of a deterrent to make them go away but and
and i’ you know I’ve learned over the years that uh I have
a visitor that is still with me is with me every day cuz the stuff that I’m
delivering they don’t want me to deliver they don’t want the populist to have the the truth because it diminishes their
control and so and that one of our tasks in this range of Consciousness in in
addition to becoming awareness is we have to make a choice and that choice is
and it’s called the choice the choice is whether we’re going to polarize positively or negatively positively
we’re choosing to be service to others and to align with the Creator’s path
direct path the other is to align negatively which is service to self and
we have a large population of service to self that is very prominent in control of most of the life experiences that we
have uh they are own there there is that’s an
indirect path they are simply additional explorers of creation they have chosen
that path predicated upon fear but when they choose to to separate themselves
from their higher self in the positive path then they choose to diminish if not
eliminate the sources of energy that we have constantly the intelligent energy
so they have to replace that and the place that they can replace get that
replacement is through third density because we have enough energy to make it
worth their while that we’re going to give them number one but number two two
we’re foolish enough to give it to them and the higher density we’re not giving
you our energy you’re crazy go away you know and so we are the
Goldilocks uh the the the right porridge bowl for them to supplement the energy
that they need to continue their Explorations and um
sustenance within creation because we need this energy it’s fascinating too and then
you’ve get Notions like um the justification of things like well uh
Humanity isn’t responsible enough in their Consciousness development if you give them free energy devices there’s so
many bad characters out there they might you know do something destructive with it or you know have retaliation on
others that have pulled the wool over their eyes are what just Myriad reasons
of using a free energy device as irresponsible so I see that on one hand on the other hand I see well this is
ridiculous you know we’ve been but it it also depends on how the free Energy’s
coming about and I I don’t understand physics enough to know uh some of the things I’ve heard have been on the the
the neutron field and and I don’t know what ramifications it uh might be of
pulling energy out of The Ether uh in one area and how does that affect the
whole you know in other places uh so that that’s another thing uh but then
again you know to charge people tons and tons of uh money for just to to to to
heat their home you know our basic needs people have to kind of um do things they
don’t want to do in order just to put a roof over their head and I’m not big into socialism but I mean it’s you know
I don’t even why I’m drawing the comparison but I think we show up here and then we’re expected to kind of slave
away our lives or do something we don’t want to do in order just to have our basic needs met that doesn’t seem the
most conducive environment to to progress Consciousness if people have to just do that now the the other thing is
um then it brings to mind this notion of these dark ones who they have this
erroneous um Jus ification in what they do by saying oh we’re just we’re just
playing an actor in order to to get people into crisises and to wake people
up and progress their thing by playing the bad the bad guy right um we’re accelerating your Consciousness
development uh by by doing what we do you know we’re actually helping you and so that to me is such a cognitive
dissonance right of of how that is and you know I don’t know how to address
that how what would you address how would you address any of that stuff that I said well that
um their motivation uh they they achieve their
their goal by domination and subjugation by maintaining ignorance in their
subjects and dominating and subjugating in order to raise your
Consciousness and to evolve that requires Time free time and the way that
the cultures of the world have evolved as uh it’s only within the mid really
20th century that free time was even possible in our recorded history and so
consequently it is has been a copian experience that we have to push that rock walk up the hill every day and that
night it’s going to roll back down so we got to do it again and that prevents us
that keeps us from evolving not having time to meditate to
contemplate to uh explore the self and so that has been an intentional
motivation on the service to self path as to keep the majority of the
population or all the population um in a suppress dominant
dominated and subjugated role so that and that is that is
changing that is going to change the the free energy is part of that um we have
as a population the a large portion of the population began we began our
experiences on the planet zenoa which is now called
Venus and we didn’t have good it that that was a productive third density
experience over and over and over for billions of years and then we were the last third
density experience we blew the atmosphere off the planet because of the service to self
involvement we began another third density experience on malc and we had uh
an even worse experience we blew the whole planet up and the asteroid belt that is in our solar system
used to be malc used to be our planet we went to and after that the
population was in what was described as a knot of fear and so we went through a
long healing period and part of that healing period was
to um participate in three different species of Bigfoot on Earth so we had a
more second density experience while we were still in third density and those are all gone now I understand that
they’re all gone um and then we tried another experience on Mars and a lot of
the um structures and anomalies that we have seen on Mars but we can’t figure
out what they are they’re the remnants of our occupation
there then we tried Earth and Earth was the first first time that we successfully completed a third density
experience after it was the fifth try that we um were successful in
completing the third density experience but without blowing the planet up but we did have a very dangerous period about
um a few thousand years ago and there was a planet a continent called Atlantis
and we blew Atlantis up uh roughly it sunk the last of it sunk beneath the w waves about 8441
BC and so that was again a very dangerous period but we
we were able to finish the the entire experience successfully that experience ended in
February of 2016 and the residual third density
population will live out their lives we’re not going to evaporate off the Earth
or um what do you call it um when you just Rapture Rapture thank
you yes you just we’re not going to Rapture we’re not going up to heaven or anything like that uh as we finish our
lives then if we’ve not met the curriculum for graduation to Fourth
density then we will relocate to another planet that is being prepared within the
solar system to begin another third density experience the Earth itself after
actually before had has become a fourth density planet and the overwhelming majority of
the children that have been born since roughly 2005 are fourth density children
all the ADHD and all of the autism and all of that these are these are Advanced
Souls these are fourth density children that are having great difficulty dealing
with the third density lower Consciousness and vibration but as they mature and you
know reach that age of assuming responsibility then the population will dramatically change and we will begin a
fourth density experience positive experience on Earth Mars has long been a fourth
density negative experience it is very populated with fourth density
negative Venus is populated by a single fifth density entity as you have evolve
through the the service to self path then your path becomes very
myopic and you have great power uh but you don’t um don’t want
anybody around you want your subjects your minions within control range but
not immediately with you and so
you know we’ve had these negative influences and all of all of the almost all of the UFOs that we see are four
density um negative because their intent their purpose is to instill
fear and that’s how they control us the fear it is bre if it’s not Breads and
circuses right like we were talking earlier a little bit uh yeah fear is the mind killer as the classic Dune says go
you know it’s just and uh feeling it we’ll wrap up here in a little
bit feeling fear you know it’s you know that cliche old saying nothing to fear
but fear itself and you know there really is no need to fear any emotion
that I feel because it’s um when when fear comes in one of the experiences of
fear for me was or is if it takes a lot to to make me afraid these days
uh but uh it’s just this the feeling in the body of it you know is extremely
unpleasant right and so a lot of people will just do whatever they can uh to not feel that you know well that that’s the
primary hindrance to our evolution in surrendering this this um false
hierophant because this hierophant is who I think I am and if I’m not who I
think I am then who the hell am I and that’s scary for most people
that’s right and when we really start investigating the nature of reality uh if there’s not a lot of um healthy
stability there start deconstructing things I mean it gets really it can get
I know in my experience it’s got really hairy really quick really frightening uh
dark Awakenings these type of things so um yeah that that stability uh is needed
I feel for some to to to to so they can go into to these um uh investigating the
nature of reality and it’s not what we think it is usually before we start waking up yeah well Dean this has been a
fascinating uh topic and conversation um very grateful to have you here enjoy
this tremendously um would you like to tell folks uh how they can get in touch with
you how they can buy your books if you have uh events coming up you know
anything else you’d like to to draw people’s attention to with your work and then also um you know the last words
you’d like to leave with us what kind of message um other than what you’ve
mentioned this time would you like to leave folks with sure yeah I have three books that are uh self-published they’re
all available on Amazon uh depending on where you are in your process uh the one
I would recommend that you start with if you have not started the process it’s called Enlightenment plain and simple it
has some easy to use um processes that will help expedite your development of a
meditation practice as well as further explanations of meditation itself uh the
identity model uh that we talked about before is um it it specifically deals
with the hierophant and how the hierophant manifests into behaviors
mostly what would things that would be considered to be mental health issues and uh I I wrote that for mental
health professionals but it’s it’s simple it’s easy to read anybody can do it it has three processes in the back
that are extremely helpful that were very helpful to me in beginning my process as far as healing from this
emotional baggage and I highly recommend that that I I give my my uh counseling
patients these exercises to do and I use it in the course of the the processes as
well I have another book called edifying children of a Lesser God which uh is an
introduction to more of the metaphysical things that we talked about today I have my compendium book which incorporates
all of this and much much more um and really is a compendium of all that I’ve learned so far is U being commercially
published uh next year uh through John Hunt publishing and it is available for
pre-order now it’s uh they’re not they haven’t released you yet they have to coordinate all the distributors and all
that kind of stuff but they can pre-order that and there are some synopses that they can read on the the
John Hunt publishing uh website um the uh chatting with the
arcturians is the current um podcast that I’m doing and that’s an ongoing
process that’s that’s where we’re getting the information about the free energy and some other devices as well as
their perspectives on our experience and the condition of the earth and so forth
and um that that’s a fascinating uh uh we we just chat it’s a very casual chat
in my um significant other is my channel
um she talks allows the uans to talk to
them just like we were talking we’ve been talking through this podcast and I have another podcast called uh simple
Enlightenment which is um all the information that we’ve been talking about and it’s course of study so I
recommend people go to the beginning episode and just follow it through because it builds one upon the other as
I go through uh as far as events I don’t have any events planned I’m busy doing
the podcast it’s keeping me busy and I’m I’m working on a fifth book as well well beautiful Dean um I think
we’ll leave it there may all beings everywhere realize Awakening and be free
thanks for joining thank you very much I’ve I’ve enjoyed our chat very much bye
now byebye
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