On May 17th, healing guide Bo Bissett joined me virtually from Taiwan to talk about primarily about healing, including: Bo’s story of multiple car accidents and addiction; the importance of love in healing and how to heal. Other topics include: why more people don’t realize they’re on a healing journey; self-sabotage; subconscious programs; self-confidence vs egotism; routines and habit patterns.
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Audio: Healing Journeys & Self-Awareness With Bo Bissett
Experimental and unedited transcript (attempt) of this podcast via assemblyai.com:
“Easiest way. Oleists. Welcome. It’s Josh Dippold from Integrating Presence. Today I’ve got Bo Bisett with me. Bo, what’s up? What’s up, Josh? Good to have you. Good to be on the show, man. I really appreciate you taking the time. Well, it’s an honor to have you here. Bo reached out and I checked out his work, and, yeah, it seems like we aligned a lot of stuff. So what I’ve been doing recently here, instead of me reading an introduction or me coming up with my own introduction, I just will toss it back to the guest here and say, who are you and what do you do? So tell us tell us a little bit about yourself and kind of your work. Yeah, man. My name is Bob, like you said, and I labeled myself as a healing guide. So I’ve been down the path, I’ve been broken, and I’ve heal myself from my own addictions, my own limiting beliefs, my own self sabotage, and I’m a little bit further down the path, so I’m reaching back with my arm and open and extended to help other people go down the same road. Pretty much what I’m doing I came up with the system that I came up with is called Ammoni. Ammo. Spanish means I love ni, and Chinese means you. So together it literally translates into I love you. And that is the goal of the system that I take people through. When they at some point in their journey with me, they can look in the mirror and actually say those words to themselves. And heartfelt meaning it’s really key. And I heard about this teaching these I love you for Matt Khan. I don’t know if you’ve heard of them, and people probably get sick of me talking about him. Bring more love the better, man. Let me hear you. Yeah, he just recently changed his love revolution to love and action, but one of his core practices is just putting a hand on the heart and saying I love you to your own heart. I’ve told this before. When I first tried this, it just didn’t seem authentic. It seemed too sappy. It just didn’t feel right. And just that recognition of being honest about how it felt when I first started doing that. Did he write a book? Oh, yeah, he’s written several books. First one was, oh, now I’m blank. And the second one is everything is Here to Help You. The third one is the Universe Always Has a Plan. Wow. His course teaching is the first book, but I’m blanking on it now. Love yourself first. Is that it? Whatever arises love that so find. Okay. And now I think that the new one coming out is supposed to be all for love. So yeah, he’s big time into it. And when I first started hearing those teachings, not to get too sidetracked on somebody else here, but it’s just like it was kind of like a new paradigm. Like a lot of the different perceptions, they didn’t register so much. But I felt that this was really kind of game changing new paradigm, but I didn’t really cognitively understand it. And so that really got my attention. So I had to go back and listen to some of his teachings and stuff. So it helped me a lot on my healing journey. And speaking of healing journeys, I would say the majority of us here on this planet are in the healing journey. It just happens to be that some of us realize that we’re on a healing journey. The question I had with the last guest was coming out tomorrow, I think, at the time of this recording is I asked her, why is it that so many people are reluctant to heal? Why aren’t more people interested in healing? And I think that maybe might be a good entry point in here. Yeah. By the way, I don’t really have a good answer for that question at all. It seems clear day to me now, but I got one. Yeah? Yeah. The thing is, our subconscious is in control of pretty much everything that we do. Not long after we’re conceived, we start embodying emotions, even in our mother’s womb. It comes through as energy, and then we start emboding that and through traumatic experiences once we’re born, even in the womb. And then when we’re born, traumatic experiences. Which traumatic experience is nothing more than emotional experience. For someone, it might be a car wreck. For another person, it might be a butterfly landing on the shoulder. The person who experiences the emotional event, they are the one that registers the trauma, and they are the one who defines it as trauma. So this idea that you have to go through war to experience trauma is complete BS. Now the thing is with the subconscious, the subconscious wants us sleepy. It wants us days. Because the subconscious is in control of everything. All of our internal systems, the heart rate, the lungs pumping, the hormones, the cellular regeneration, everything subconscious handles all that. So anything in the external environment that pops up, it’s like, dude, I want to handle that. What was the first response that we did to that? Okay, cue that and let me get back to business, right? So the subconscious does its best job, is trying to keep us almost like drugged. So we are like Zombified, right? That’s why so many people are just sitting in front of TVs and eating Cheetos or stuck on their phone. Because it’s just a state of distraction to where there’s nothing else going on. Right? They’re just stuck in that phase. In that phase, they don’t see what needs to be worked on. Right? If there are all these other distractions, then they don’t need to heal, right? Because in that moment, they’re soaking up the latest Marvel movie or whatever’s going on Facebook or whatever. So there’s no need to heal. It’s only when later on in life, it’s either another traumatic event that’s like a big traumatic event that shakes us and makes us realize like, whoa, whoa. You come out of this daisy confused state or your body starts breaking down from disease or you’re not taking care of it. A lot of the disease that we experience is from the emotional seeds that we planted earlier on because the emotions that we experienced, they resonate at a different level like love and happiness resonated a much different level than anger and shame or guilt and things like that, right? And our body, our body is like our high school hallway. So you remember even in movies you see like the hallway just littered with lockers, right? Their body is that same way. But instead of booked, our body holds on to emotional and the responses that we had to external environment. And those lockers are all over the body. They’re in our hips, they’re in our back, they’re in our heart, they’re in our lower intestine, they’re all over. And wherever is your most common locker, your most common little cubby hole, that area just vibrates with the emotions and the energy that you put in there. And if it’s bad energy, then sooner or later that energy is going to turn into disease or some other problem. For me, I used to manifest problems with my lower body. I broke my ankles, I got two car wrecks where I almost killed myself and broke countless bones. And so, I mean, that was my space. So people don’t want to heal. It’s not that they don’t want to, it’s just they’re just their sleep. Totally. That’s a great answer. Unfortunately, in the same way, for me, it pretty much took hitting rock bottom for me to realize that, oh shit, something is really wrong here. Not really wrong at all, but in the manner of speaking back then, right? Yes. There’s so much healing to be done. And mostly I had no idea of all the things I had been compartmentalizing or putting off, all the things I had forgotten and just put away on a shelf because there’s too much going on at the time and didn’t even know. And then all these memories start surfacing again and start healing and then they come up to be seen and released. And it was actually kind of amazing and exciting when that started happening to just realize, wow, this state of existence is so amazing that the body, it does that as for our own protection because the level of consciousness isn’t there to deal with it at the time. Unfortunately for some people anyway, it seems like, at least for me, it did. But yeah, when that started to come up and actually started to give that attention, seeing it to be healed and released, it was quite amazing. That capacity we have or how this being is designed and how things work like that and this is another thing Bo and I obviously connect on, really clearly is this self awareness. Maybe I’ll just jump in here and ask, just preach to the choir here. At least for me anyway. But anybody that’s lucky enough to hear Bo talked about the self awareness thing because I know he’s big into this. So if you really haven’t delved into studying and practicing and doing things for self awareness, here we go. Yeah, I think self awareness is the key to healing because, like we talked about earlier, with the subconscious being in control, you’re not aware. Most of us are in the autopilot state. We have our routines and we get up, we make coffee, we brush our teeth, we go to work. We go to work, we do our things at work. We go to lunch, we have our meetings, we go back to work and we come home, we do the laundry, and we’re just like we’re not present, right? Most of the time, not only are we going through these routines, but at the same time we’re looking at a phone or we’re thinking about this and we’re just like we’re everywhere but nowhere, right? So we know, like, so many people just not aware of what they’re doing. And so when you’re running on autopilot, that is the domain of the subconscious. And so the things that you say, the things that you do, the things that you feel, and even the energy that you give off, you’re not even in control of. I mean, I know, I’ve done it thousands of times. Just say something. You’re like, Why the hell did I just say that? Right? Or you do something and you’re like, you have a conversation with your significant other and the next thing you know, just turns the wrong way and you’re like, dude, why did that just go that way? Right? And we subconsciously, we don’t even have to say anything if we something like an energy that we’re putting now and the other person picks up on it, boom. Off to the races, right? So self awareness is peeling away the emotions that the subconscious uses for the programs. And once you peel away those emotions, then it’s kind of like little bubbles. You have your kids, you stick their little plastic thing in the bubble bottle and you pull it out and you blow it out in the air and the bubble just spread. Well, the self awareness is seeing those bubbles and then actually, like, popping them, just walking up and popping each one of them. And when that happens, when those bubbles pop as you’re a kid, you just get a little soap on your hand. But when you’re doing this, when you’re finding these emotions, you’re actually releasing and you’re becoming aware of the things that you do, the things you say, think, feel, and energize, and it is a humbling experience. It brought me down to my knees and had me crying for days. And actually when I first went through the muscle testing and the emotional healing that I did, I cried for almost like 3 hours straight. And then as I was going through the process that is now on my knee, I cried for months. And I’m not somebody that can I mean, I’m about five foot ten, about £175. And after I cleared all this stuff, I went down to about 155. And at 175, I’m trim, I’m fit, I’m not somebody that can lose £20, but I did. And my body just like just flushed. All that stuff, all that energy, all that physical matter, those emotions, and I don’t mean to say negative, that heavy energy that it was holding onto release and it was born again. And it’s a beautiful experience, man. It really is. In a very similar experience here, too. I wept pretty much every day. I do a daily meditation practice and before I really even knew how to do stuff like that, it was just basically me sitting in the wrong way and having my own self therapy. But it was like weeping every day. It was socially acceptable because I was by myself, right, probably a good half of a year to a year. But it was every time those tears watered the heart and it was just like this release and this healing that happened, they didn’t have to be embarrassing or anything because nobody saw it or anything, so who cares anyway, right? But yeah, we’re all man here, crying is therapeutic, man. I never want to actually show emotions, but when I went through that, it was like it became and that’s part of our programming too, right? Oh, man, you got to man up. You got to be tough. You can’t let people see you cry. That’s BS, man. So crying and letting it go is like just part of the process. Yeah, there’s nothing to be ashamed of that or fear of that at all. Self awareness and I guess another word I know, even though it’s kind of overused and it’s been, I don’t know, maybe bastardized a little bit is mindfulness, and there’s mindfulness, too, but it is, it’s just awareness, self awareness, especially that portion of it as well. And there can never really be enough self awareness and awareness. There’s really no limit or no need to get down on ourselves for not having enough. Exactly. But it’s something you can’t overdo like we can with addictions. Right? And I know you mentioned addictions and I wonder if we should take it in the direction of that. Because even if someone out there doesn’t have an addiction, they obviously have known others that have and can recognize tendencies, at least in themselves, too. Yeah, so I guess I’m trying to think of a specific question. If you just want to relate any kind of helpful experiences with this or maybe how you work with folks, too, on any of this and things we’ve talked about as well. I can see where it goes. Yes. I can tell you my path, my own path with addiction, which is pretty brutal, but yeah. So I started drinking in my early teens. Let’s see, my first accident when I was 15, I blew out my knee playing soccer and completely ACO NCO cartilage, everything. And then after that, I kind of lost my identity. And so I started drinking and doing drugs, and I just punished myself. And then when I was 19, I got in a car accident, single person car accident. I was drunk driving. I ran off the road late at night, ran through a telephone pole. And the first cop on the scene called the hospital or the emergency services and was like, take your time. This guy didn’t make it. Well, they showed up and I did make it, and they air lifted me out on my way. Somewhere during that time, my dead grandfather showed up and told me to go back. It was not my time. I woke up the next day in the hospital, both my femurs, let’s see, ankles, elbows, ribs, cracked, the back of my head open. I had tubes coming in and out of me from every direction. And then two years later, after I healed, I got drunk one night and then skateboarded down a hill through an intersection and ran into a car and pretty much went through the same thing again. This time I got a staph infection. I almost lost my right leg. And then in my 20s, after graduating from university, I got a good job, I was making good money. I started doing cocaine Megaheavy. And I could not go to my parents after both of those accidents and then knowing what they had been through with the alcohol to tell them that I was now a cocaine junkie. So I packed up, no, I gave away all my stuff, left the country, and that was it. And I started moving from one country to the next, running away from my problems. And it wasn’t until my late 30s that I called my brother. I was in Vietnam at the time. I called my brother and I was like, dude, I don’t know what’s going on. I need help. I lost my job, I lost a girlfriend. It was amazing. I had a business that had failed, like, just completely bottom of the barrel of failure. I was waking up in the middle, in the gutters in Vietnam, completely drunk. And so anyways, I get home, we’ll get you sorted out, and I ended up with my aunt and uncle, and my aunt got breast cancer, and my body was starting to break down, and I was like, Dude, come on, man. Like, this is it. What are you doing? And so that was my body breaking down and then my ankle cancer. That was the two things that really we talked about early, like, another trauma to really shake you. And that was the trauma that I needed to because apparently all the car wrecks, everything else wasn’t enough. But that shook me and that set me on my path book. My first self help book was, I think, Love Yourself First. I’m not sure who wrote it, but it was like some Silicon Valley guy that was going through some depression, and he was looking in the mirror, and now I like, you was looking in the mirror saying, I love you. And I actually had a sticky note. I remember sitting, I remember on the mirror clears day that said I love you. And I just read those words, right? And I remember looking at myself and just like, dude, you’re such a loser, man. I don’t love you like, you’re a piece of junk. It did not feel right coming out of my own mouth. And so that’s my addictive story, all right? And then it wasn’t until years later, it took me about six years, six years later, seven years later that I found the work that I’m doing now. And I started peeling back the emotions, and I realized that the reason that I had been drawn to that addictive and destructive behavior was because I didn’t feel like I was worthy. I didn’t feel like I was a good person. And by my addiction was me, in a way. Like, me destroying myself and me punishing myself for how I felt I was to the rest of the world once I started going through this journey. And about halfway through, I was like, man, I think I could drink again. Like, one day I might be able to, theoretically, if I’ve gotten in touch with these emotions and I’ve gotten rid of these emotions then, and it’s been long enough. So the physical side of the addiction is long past, so I should be able to. And so I went a few months, and I was comfortable being sober. I went a few months and I was like, you know what? Based on my past, I’ve kind of always pushed the envelope a little bit. So I was like, you know what? I’m going to try it. And I did, and I drank, and I was like, Oh, man, I can do it. Like, I had a glass of wine one night, and then a weekend later, like, I had another glass of wine, and then I started inching back into the territory, and I was like, Hold on now. So I know that I did some work, but I know I need to do a lot more. And so I did, and I cleared for months and months and months, and I finally got to the place where I can yeah, if I want it. I’m in a state now where I’m so healthy and I’m so focused on living a good life that I mean, alcohol technically is poison, right? So why would I want to pull that in? My body. But at the same point, every once in a while, I think it’s good to throw a little dirt in the tank. But I’m finally at the point now where I can I have that choice. And sometimes if I’ve been working in the yard or something like that, after a long day, I want a beer and I’ll go run down the store and get one beer, like a 22 ounce beer, like a Tiger beer. I’m in Taiwan, so like a Tiger beer and come back and sit on the porch and just enjoy the surroundings. Or I’ll have that thought and be like, Hey, you know what? I don’t want it. And that is a beautiful part of when you find these emotions, you find the programs that were running your life. And once you remove them, you finally have choice. And that choice is such a beautiful thing because you’re no longer driven. You’re no longer forced to do something just because you think you can think it, but then you can say this or that, and that is a beautiful thing. Out of all the things that I’ve done, I’ve accomplished, I think that beating that addiction is pretty high on the list. Yeah, that choice is a beautiful thing. And that’s what self awareness can do. It opens up that space where we can see other options. Wow. What a story. An undertaking. Jeez. Right? Talk about wake up calls. Wow. Serious. Yeah. And I got like, numerous ones, and I skipped a lot of stuff. Right. I skipped accidents and overseas. I don’t want my mom here, but that’s the thing, because when we go through something and when we come out the other side and heal from it, then for lack of a better word, we’re a hero for those still going through it in the best sense of the word. Not the kind of cliche caricature version of that word, but it is. And then what Bo said about the worthiness thing, and especially with the feminine too, not feeling worthy as well. But that is really core. And I was really surprised when I started doing this type of journey, too, and self healing work is how much I just loathed myself, just hated myself and really didn’t even realize it until those layers start getting peeled back. Right. And we’re not talking about the kind of egocentric. And that’s another thing I had was I was confusing self confidence for people who were egotistical, because the only examples I had really for people that had a lot of self confidence, they were also a holes and they were totally self centered, didn’t care about anything, would go walk over everybody just to get what they want and then try to pretend like they didn’t. So obviously, two totally different things, and I was mistaking the two for the same thing. Obviously not the same thing. So why don’t we talk a little bit about your healing modality and how you help people with it and then also how you came up with it as well. Yeah, definitely. I want to touch on one point that you brought up real quick though, about people with confidence being a holes. And we all do it and it’s one thing to be careful of because a lot of people do it with one of the biggest examples is like someone you see somebody rich, right? And you’re like see somebody in like a BMW or Mercedes cut somebody off in traffic or do some weird, oh, that rich, whatever. Be careful how you do that because once you attach attached that negative behavior to being rich, then you’re actually penalizing yourself and same thing with self confidence in any other way that any other thing. So be careful. Like, be really careful with labels. Totally self sabotaging. Yes, that’s what I was doing to myself with that in making this association. I’m glad you pointed that out. Yes. And the labels too. We can maybe even talk more about that, but yeah, what I usually tell people is some labels can be helpful to pick up, but then you have to put down right. If you start taking on labels as an identity, you’re totally limiting yourself big time. I totally agree. Man, labels are so dangerous at first. I think when you start undertaking this journey, it’s just best not to take on any labels at all. And the ones that you do eventually take on, be careful you are, you are not this or that. We are constantly changing. There’s no static state of I am this because I’m different than I was 30 seconds ago. Like physically different than I was 30 seconds ago. We all are. Just be really careful. Yes. Sometimes they’re necessary to pick up for some stability because some people are just so in a chaotic state that they have to have some kind of reference point temporarily. But yes, be very careful about grabbing onto a label and then start taking that as that’s who I am as a permanent self. It doesn’t work like that, right? It’s a set up for a disaster. It can be especially long term. So the healing modality here, we’ve got maybe, I guess five or so minutes left and then I guess maybe we can wrap up with that and then after that we can get into anything else you want to leave the audience with. And of course, any events you have coming up, your websites, your social and stuff. And those will be included in the show notes as well. Yeah, of course. For any questions, if what I say resonates with you, check out the website ammonicclear.com. But what I use is muscle testing. I use self muscle testing, which I believe is one of the biggest keys to me healing because it put me in touch with my body. Something that despite all the accidents that I’d had and I felt like I was really connected with my body. But once that I started learning, when I learned muscle testing, I realized that nothing could be further from the truth. I thought I was not connected with my body at all. Muscle testing. Use muscle testing to find the emotions. Use a meridian chart that was popularized with Kinesiology to peg the emotions that we find with muscle testing on the body. And once we take those emotions, then there are corresponding release points all across the body that we can use to release the emotions once we find them. We also connect with the emotions on a physical level. I help the individual find the emotions and where they are, and then they connect with the emotions, like where they actually feel them in their body. Then we use a Pranayamic breath that I came up with called the Ammo Breath. It’s a visualization tool and then also a breathing tool to help move the emotions that we’ve connected with. And there’s a video, I’ve got a video on the arm of Breath on YouTube if anyone wants to check it out. Then finally, at the very end, we use neuro linguistic programming to kind of grease the wheels and intention and move the individual further down their path of their hopes and desires. It’s a comprehensive approach and like I said earlier, combines practices from all over, and they helped heal me. And like I said, if this resonates with you, then feel free to reach out. The best way to contact me is through the website. I’ve got social stuff on Facebook and LinkedIn and everything, but I’ve got a contact form and also my email listed on the website. So you don’t have to feel like you’re obligated to do anything, but if you have questions just yet, contact me in the startups and dialogue. Right on. And that’s spelled amon iclear.com, right? Yes. C-L-E. Both thanks for doing this. Thanks for sharing your wisdom, your knowledge, your stories. That’s just one thing I’m still learning, is how to relate stories better. But coming from such a place in the heart, in such a visceral thing, like the golden question, what if the worst things that ever happened to me were the greatest opportunity I’ve ever been given? Right? Yeah. I was there with you a little bit, too, and I know tuning in, being somewhat empathic, and you talked about being connected to your body, it definitely seems that way to me because I know I’m not most of the time I’m in my head a lot, which is weird for being energetically, sensitive, empathic a little bit too, but both again, thanks again. Everybody encouraged. Check out Bo’s work. Connect with him if you feel so called to do so. Yeah. Wish you all well. May you all have an optimal, ideal state of consciousness and energy for the rest of your morning, day, afternoon, whenever you’re listening or watching this. Later on bo. Alright. Thank you so much, Josh.”
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