(Ai assisted:) In this conversation, Neil Gaur shares his profound journey exploring the roots of religion, spirituality, and the connections between humanity and extraterrestrial beings. He discusses his upbringing in a Hindu family, his quest for understanding the similarities between different religions, and how ancient texts like the Sumerian scriptures have influenced his worldview. Neil emphasizes the importance of genetics in spiritual evolution and the ongoing hybridization programs involving various extraterrestrial races. He also reflects on the impact of nuclear testing on extraterrestrial interest in Earth and the significance of love in spiritual awakening.
We explore the complex themes of hybridization, the ethics surrounding extraterrestrial interactions, and the implications of government secrecy regarding these phenomena. Neil mentions the urge to create inherent in sentient beings, the potential for hybridization to be both beneficial and harmful, and the challenges of discerning truth in a world filled with misinformation. The conversation also touches on the nature of consciousness, reincarnation, and the evolving understanding of UFOs and drones in relation to government operations.
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Takeaways:
- Neil’s journey began with a quest for the root of all religions.
- He highlights the similarities between Hinduism and Christianity.
- Neil’s exploration led him to ancient texts like the Sumerian Tablets.
- He believes Earth is a library of DNA from various extraterrestrial beings.
- Neil discusses the impact of nuclear testing on extraterrestrial interest in Earth.
- He emphasizes the importance of love in spiritual awakening.
- Neil’s group, Portal to Ascension, was born from a significant realization.
- He connects genetics to spiritual evolution and extraterrestrial influence.
- Neil explains the shift in genetic laws post-World War II.
- He discusses the ongoing hybridization programs involving various extraterrestrial races. The urge to create is a fundamental aspect of sentience.
- Hybridization has been a continuous process throughout history.
- Ethical considerations arise when discussing the implications of hybridization.
- Many individuals are unaware of their experiences with hybridization.
- Government secrecy complicates the understanding of hybridization agendas.
- The complexity of alien interactions raises questions about their intentions.
- Drones and UFO sightings may be linked to government operations.
- The need for discernment in understanding truth is crucial.
- The conversation around consciousness is evolving and expanding.
- Exploring these themes is essential for personal and collective awakening.
Chapters
00:00 Neil Gaur’s Journey into Spirituality and Religion
06:56 Exploring Extraterrestrial Connections and Ancient Texts
14:12 The Role of Genetics in Spiritual Evolution
24:04 Hybridization Programs and Their Implications
27:15 The Urge to Create: Sentience and Hybridization
30:13 The Ethics of Hybridization and Reincarnation
33:27 Government Secrecy and the Hybridization Agenda
36:55 The Complexity of Alien Interactions
40:50 Drones, UFOs, and Government Operations
44:42 Conclusion: The Journey of Understanding Consciousness
Audio: Roots of Religion, Genetics, Hybridization, ETs And Drones With Neil Gaur
Unedited transcript via Riverside.fm:
Josh Dippold (00:00.994)
Holous welcome, this is Josh integrating presence and inner skilled. And today I’ve got Neil Gore with me. Neil, what’s happening?
Neil Gaur (00:09.654)
Josh, good to be here with you, brother.
Josh Dippold (00:12.15)
Likewise, so the standard question I usually ask, who’s Neil Gore? What kind of work does he do?
Neil Gaur (00:18.592)
So my story goes, I guess, is the reason why I got into this work and I guess I’m here to start from that moment is because I was on the search of the root of all religion. That’s kind of what really started me out. But then the journey that took me to that point was the fact that I was born in England to an Indian family. And so I was raised Hindu. I was told to do all these rites and rituals. I followed everything that was shared with me.
But when I look back at it in retrospect, the whole component of what was the end result, why did we do the rites and rituals never really clicked. There was God was not a part of religion for me. And it seems like that in a lot of ways for first generation out of Indian children, that religion gets diluted more and more. And I think maybe the logical component gets in because Hinduism for the most part is based on a lot of blind faith, even though it’s interesting because there’s so much truth within that.
religion and so because I was raised Hindu did all the rites and rituals We also celebrated Christmas every year. I was also told about Jesus. I watched the King of Kings every year I watched Moses. I watched Ben-Hur all those things and and then when I was curious about why are we why am I watching all this stuff my mom told me that our religion says The different people are raised different people around the world have different prophets
because we need to be approached differently, culturally, different generations, locations, upbringings, so different prophets come about. Instead of being told that this was the only way, I was told why there is so much diversity in religion. As I was growing older, I moved from England when I was 12 years old and still celebrated Christmas and all that. But then when 17, 18 came, I started wondering,
It’s interesting how it’s okay for me to be open to all these religions. However, the Abrahamic religions in which all this information comes from, each one of them, even though they’re all connected to each other, say that this is the only way. The Jews believe that Judaism is the only way and they’re waiting for their prophet. The Christians believe that Jesus, Yeshua is the only one, Muhammad and Allah and so forth. Why is it that
Neil Gaur (02:35.838)
It’s okay for me to believe in them, but it’s not okay for them to even believe that my history is valid. Not only that, because Indian civilization or Hinduism has so many gods, technically we’re devil worshipers. I started even hearing the whole thing about meditation being an opening to devils coming in your body and the fundamental Christian view of it all. I started wondering why is it okay for me to be into this?
doing that, I started researching and looking into the story of Jesus. And I quickly started seeing all these similarities between Krishna and Christ. And there’s a reason why they both have Christ in the beginning of their name. Christ means the Anointed One. Krishna means the Anointed One. Christ comes from the word from the Greeks, from ancient Greeks called Christos, which also means the Anointed One. Right? And then the list just goes on. You can do a parallel explanation of
Christ’s life, Krishna’s life, including born to a virgin mother, including the way he was killed with a spear in the side on the cross and so much more. So I said, Whoa, this is very interesting. Could it be that Yeshua Christ is actually a retold story from India and that there is some sort of connection here? So when I first started getting into this awareness in 2000, 2001, the first thing was I was like,
Jesus never existed. I’ve come full circle now, I believe he did exist, but I was seeing that the ancient connection and all of a sudden there was some sort of glimpse that there is a root. If these two supposedly different faiths, Hinduism and Christianity, that I even went to Catholic school for one year in England, like it was drilled into me that polytheistic religions and monotheistic religions have no connection, right? And I’m seeing it right here. So I started going down looking for the root of all religion and then
Then I was at Panera Bread, 2001, 2002, Bhagavad Gita with me, the Quran with me, the Old Testament with me, and I would be highlighting similarities. As I was doing that, I kept going further and further back until I finally stumbled upon the Sumerian Tablets of Creation. I found a video online of Jordan Maxwell, and he was talking about the sons of God. That’s what really brought me into the Sumerian scriptures. I was like, aha!
Neil Gaur (05:04.424)
I have now found some source text from a lot of religions in the world. The great thing about finding the Sumerian scriptures was it was an introduction to the three main fields of portal to ascension, which is extraterrestrials being our gods, quantum physics because there’s metaphors within the Sumerian scriptures that speak about advanced quantum physics, science, and ancient history, what our true world history is.
I started looking at it and seeing that a lot of the information in here is verbatim taken from scriptures around the world. The first thing I found was the Epic of Gilgamesh. The Epic of Gilgamesh is this hybridized being, half human, half ET, that was going around the world after a great flood. When he goes around the world, he stumbles upon a guy called Upnapishtim. Upnapishtim is aka Noah.
I’m like, whoa, wait a second. There’s this story talking about a hybridized being from Earth and the stars that meets Noah and it’s the original Noah story. But wait a second, wasn’t Noah supposed to be the only family left on the planet after the great flood? Are you telling me the original story had other hominids on Earth that weren’t homo sapiens sapien? Right, so that started the Krishna thing and then the next thing was really looking and seeing the flood story.
I looked around the whole world at that point because I was looking at all these ancient scriptures and realized there was a flood story in almost every ancient civilization and I started wondering was there collective trauma that we all experience from a flood and could we have fragmented from that point with different cultures and religions and forgot our common ancestry. So as that was the beginning foundation, that’s 2002 or so, I just began going deep down the rabbit hole exploring all those routes and I went
The first route I went deep into was the extraterrestrial component, trying to see if some of these beings that we’re talking about in our scriptures were actually visitors from the stars.
Josh Dippold (07:06.382)
Well, right on. There’s plenty here to just start off with. And I think the Christ story is paralleled even in more different, is it like in Mithraism? Or I forget exactly where, but there’s way more parallels than what you even mentioned. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I think it’s really.
Neil Gaur (07:16.214)
Yeah.
Neil Gaur (07:22.388)
100%. Even a service.
Josh Dippold (07:31.829)
Interesting how Hinduism even appropriates the Buddha, right? that’s just Vishnu. yeah, which is really interesting. They place it all in there. So you’re approaching all this from a scholarly perspective. What about firsthand experience, contact, things like this? Do you work this into your worldview? I think that’s, I guess, yeah, let’s start there.
Neil Gaur (07:59.414)
When I first started getting into all this, I wasn’t having contact or aware of any actual interactions. Now, in retrospect, I realize I’ve been in communication with some sort of beings and entities or whatever the whole time. I’ve been guided in this direction. When I got into the Sumerian scriptures and saw the EC component, I immediately went into the channeling. By 2004 or so, 2005, I was learning a lot from different channels from beings.
bringing down this information. I was utilizing this information to just back up the fact that not only has Earth been visited a lot, but it’s also one of the biggest light shows in the universe at this point. The reason why is my personal belief is that Earth is, for lack of a better explanation, the library of Alexandria for DNA, for genetics. Beings throughout the cosmos, throughout a galaxy, if not every being throughout a galaxy,
has donated DNA to the Earth experience from beings that look like cockroaches to beings that look like ants to beings that look like mantises to beings that look like dragonflies that are sentient that I’ve donated to this experiment on Earth. I would say the Sumerian scriptures definitely was the intro where I started looking at the genetic hybridization stories from that. When I was looking at the ancient text, the thing that really took me into more of We’ve Been Seated was I quickly found that
A lot of ancient civilizations spoke about stories of clay. If you look up, now you have chat GBT, can go on there and type in, every ancient civilization that spoke about humans from clay and give me the stories. If you look at that, you’ll see that it’s literally a metaphoric and artistic expression of genetic hybridization. A lot of cultures from India to Egypt are all speaking about these beings came and they molded humanity out of their own image from this clay.
Now I’m understanding that a lot of these beings have donated DNA and in a way they’ve donated DNA to a descended version of themselves. In our linear timeline, we are progressing to become the ascended version of them. It’s almost like we’re trying to work out maybe some sort of galactic speciesism by trying to figure out how we can all live in harmony here. That’s kind of my in a nutshell worldview. When it comes to
Neil Gaur (10:24.598)
contact, the first E.T. race I ever knew existed was the Arcturians. I’ve really been into technology my whole life, into computers. I even used technology and was one of the first few people doing big webinars over a decade ago on this content. I realized the Arcturians, have this deep connection to technology, one of the most technologically advanced civilizations in our galaxy. That was my first connection to them.
But as time progressed, I started realizing that Earth is a gift, meaning that a lot of us have achieved the greatest of heights throughout the cosmos. We’ve been many things. We’ve been so much. And Earth is a gift to those that have achieved those great heights. And a lot of us have been, maybe I’ve been in the Pleiades more times than I’ve been in Arcturus. But I might claim heritage to Arcturus on Earth. And the reason for that is the theme of my lessons and my experiences in Arcturus are more relevant to my purpose now.
It doesn’t mean that’s what I am only because I’ve been at all, but I’m pulling in certain threads of it. That’s how everything morphed. I’ll give one more thing here. In 2006, I would say this part was the moment of real downloads from some beings. In 2006, I created an online group called 2012 Consciousness, Mind Evolution, and Presence. It was a group.
I was learning all this stuff. was deep into conspiracies at that point. It was all about the Illuminati out to get us and all this stuff. I created this online group to see who would join and learn more information about 2012 and consciousness. They became very, very big. So big that I had to create a California chapter, a New York chapter, California. I created all these separate chapters. From 2006 to 2008 was probably the most spiritually awakening time for me because before that,
I was into ancient history and ETs and channeling, but I was intellectualizing everything. There was no actual implementation. In 2008, I was working as a financial advisor for a broker and the market crashed in 2008. Because it crashed, I got fired and then I was wondering what should I do now? I didn’t want to go back to a regular job. I was at an open mic.
Neil Gaur (12:48.53)
First time I ever performed poetry spoken word Sitting in the audience and this guy’s on stage my friend and he’s singing this song called my name is love and in that moment I remember it like I was in the back and I had this realization that I’d been into all this stuff, but there was one missing link and it was love and What I mean by that is before that moment. I was judging ignorance. I was judging evil I was judging what I considered bad and all this stuff
And then I realized how the darkness and the evil work for each other and how the polarity is the sacred dance of experience. And I stopped judging that and I realized even those that I consider that have taken us out or doing all these things trying to depopulate are playing their role perfectly for what I decided to come for. And a few days later, I was sleeping and I had a download come to me to change the name of my group to Portal to Ascension. And I changed the name of the group.
But in that moment, this is the download. I had a 20 year package in one moment and it was from 2008 to 2028. Pretty much mapping out Portal to Ascension and what I was gonna do. And I’ve been on that trajectory ever since and I still have an end goal. Well, there’s no end goal, it continues, but I still have like the first chapter of this. I still know what the 2028 vision is and I’ve been working towards that.
Josh Dippold (14:12.184)
Well, that’s really cool. That’s really important. What was it? Something like Don Juan said or something in the Carlos Costa Native material, which we know has all of its issues too. It’s just like, the, if does the path have a heart, you know, it’s one of the first things we have to act. Does it have a heart? It is really super important.
And I find maybe early on that what’s considered judgmentalism, it’s like the precursor to just kind of discernment. You know, it’s until we can just, we just need to discern, OK, this is just not for me. It’s not that I look down on it or are judgmental towards it. It’s just a recognition. yeah, that’s them. And I see and honor that. But that’s just not for me, right? And yeah.
Neil Gaur (14:38.996)
Yeah, I love that.
Josh Dippold (14:54.422)
their own path. And so I’m guessing this was because of your, your upbringing, that you were into this stuff really early on, and you just started kind of asking questions for yourself and, and, and, know, and looking into two other ways, like you’re saying. And so the other thing here, I think, is the biggie is the genetics, right? This is huge. I mean, even in just the bass program.
Every day life, we see all this genetically modified food and crisper and things like this. But that’s kind of maybe the human parallel of it, I guess. I don’t know how much that’s really influenced by other things. But it does seem to be a genetic hot spot here, a genetic.
Neil Gaur (15:35.658)
Yeah, yeah.
Josh Dippold (15:46.081)
library, as you say, or, you know, why I’ve heard some people talk like saying that, you know, this
notion of a financial system is kind of pointless to some of these races and how far advanced they are, they still, some of them still trade in genetics. And, you know, my question is, I guess, why are they doing this? When I look at some of these, our reason, or maybe it’s not subject to reason, that a lot of them are fear.
death and extinction. They don’t want to become extinct. they will do some of these races will do anything they can to kick the can down the road to prolong their life, you know, to harvest energy, to make genetic modifications to hybridize races to be able to incarnate somewhere, you know, and also, I was wondering if you’re familiar with this notion of
And I haven’t heard of this since except for Randy’s work, think. See if I’m even getting it right. That a lot of this vast diversity of genetics here, that’s like a 3D representation. So we think of like the insectoid species. They’ll have like a physical anchor here.
Neil Gaur (16:58.774)
Mm-hmm.
Josh Dippold (17:05.334)
an insect that we see in the 3D, but that’s their anchor point here to like 4D or whatever these beings are. So they need to have a physical analog here to be able to be anchored to come in and out of this reality. I don’t know if I’m representing that idea right or not, but yes, things like this.
Neil Gaur (17:06.571)
you
Neil Gaur (17:23.156)
Yeah, so definitely. So there’s two types of, in my opinion, there’s two types of genetic connection. There’s soul genetics and then there’s physical third dimensional genetics. And the third dimensional genetics aren’t actually third dimensional because there are more strands, but the strands aren’t, you know how they say metaphysical strands, invisible strands, it’s not that. They just vibrate at a light spectrum that we aren’t able to perceive with our current eyes. So they actually exist.
Josh Dippold (17:29.452)
Bam.
Neil Gaur (17:50.25)
physically, but they’re just at the light spectrum outside of any other type of frequency and lasers that can do things that we can’t see. There is the soul genetics that are separate but also connected to the physical genetics. By having a specific amount of physical genetics connected to a specific ET race, it makes it easier for that soul to incarnate into that race. I don’t know the percentage, but I know when the reptilians came here.
The ones that came through the Orion Stargate, they couldn’t incarnate onto Earth until a specific amount of reptilian beings from this physical reality had come to Earth enough times to alter the DNA so that there was a perfect percentage for them to come into specific lineages. Now, the understanding with Dolores Cannon’s work is that law was thrown out after 1945, after the nuclear tests. Before that, it still might be easier.
But now, it’s an easier process for souls now to jump into bodies where they don’t have a specific genetic connection to, on that percentage level. But for quite a while, including specific ethnic groups on Earth, were pulling in souls for specific star systems that connected to their genetics, including their written language connected to those beings as well. I’ll give you example.
The Jewish, not the Zionist ones, but the original bloodline, right, was connected to the Arcturians, where Arcturian beings were incarnating into the Jewish bloodline for quite some time from the Abrahamic lineages and including their language, Hebrew, was connected to the Arcturians as well. So, yeah, it’s really very interesting, but the biggest commodity in the universe is genetics. And the reason why is when we came here,
If you go back to the Big Bang or before everything, the void, when the void became duality, the void was unconditional. Source, the blackness, the darkness, whatever it was, was unconditional. Meaning, it did not inflict its own intention and agenda on everything. It just wanted to experience itself infinitely. But part of the experience of itself infinitely was to allow its creation to have its own free will.
Neil Gaur (20:16.927)
to put their own intentions on creation. Does that make sense? So, yeah, go ahead.
Josh Dippold (20:20.974)
Yes, and I’ve heard that before, of course. Yeah. If you had a follow up there, but I wouldn’t ask you at them. So can you expand more on you said, well, if there’s a certain percentage of a certain type of genetics, then they can incarnate. But now you said that’s been thrown out the window. Could you say more about that and how it works now then?
Neil Gaur (20:42.27)
Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I gotta give a disclaimer first. There’s so much going on. No one knows every answer. There’s so many ETs and intentions and agendas. Case in point is that I’ve heard of these dragonfly beings that are on Earth and they’re not even messing with humans. They’re literally trying to save a dragonfly species from going extinct because they’re their ancestors. You know what saying? So, there’s so much happening here, right?
So now what happened before World War II, during World War II, was that we started doing nuclear testing, nuclear bombs. There’s a reason why if you look up maybe the top 100 sightings in the world, if you look that up, almost every one of them is at a nuclear facility. Because what happens is this reality is much more of a simulation than we probably even believe.
That you and I were not made out of solid matter, we’re made out of frequencies and vibrations, almost like a really advanced code. You can consider it like a hard drive with games and softwares in there that are playing out. These softwares are different levels of the game, different dimensions, different experiences of the construct. Imagine if somebody goes in the hard drive and they just light up a little light flame in that hard drive in that one component. What happens? Well, the rest of the software gets corrupted and some of it doesn’t work.
the matrix starts crumbling. But also, what’s outside that hard drive could also be affected by it. So that’s what’s happening with nuclear bombs, is when you explode nuclear energy, it splits the atom. And why does the energy go? It goes into the singularity of the quantum field. Because atoms are not created by solid matter. Atoms are created by subatomic particles. Subatomic particles are in the quantum realm that are all made out of infinite singularities.
What’s a singularity? Well, it’s a mini black hole, a mini wormhole. It’s where all creation is projected out of. It’s almost like the projector screen for the hologram. When you split the atom and you go into the quantum world, the energy goes into that and it starts corrupting the code around it and affecting other realities and dimensions. When that happened, a call went out into the universe. The call basically said that they’ve got to a level where they’re able to affect other realities now and not just harm themselves but harm others.
Neil Gaur (23:06.774)
There’s a potential they could harm themselves and wipe themselves out. We cannot let the Earth experiment die. It’s got to continue. The call was, we need beings to incarnate on Earth because we need to make a change without violating the prime directive from Star Trek, which is the law of non-interference. We can’t interfere with them because they’re not at the consciousness level to go down there and talk to them. They’re going to fight us and all this stuff.
So the only way to do it is to go and incarnate into these souls, into these bodies on earth, be born as a child, go through the process of menesia, try to remember who we are and change things. So the reason why that law was shifted in some way of the genetic bloodline connection was that the floodgates had opened for incarnation on earth. And since the floodgates open, beings began incarnating in all types of
races, religions, creeds and all this stuff in order to basically have the impact that we’re creating now.
Josh Dippold (24:12.302)
Thanks for that. I haven’t heard that. So where does that, I guess there’s just so much to talk about here, right? Where does that leave the hybrid programs then?
Neil Gaur (24:19.766)
So much to talk about here.
Neil Gaur (24:24.822)
Yeah, so the hybrid programs is the I mean they’re related and they’re separate at the same time because there’s multiple different variations of hybrid programs. There’s ones connected to the government with specific ET races that they are in contract with. There’s other beings that are here right now that no one even knows about that are existing ethically on other realms of the light spectrum that are extracting DNA from us in order to take back to their planets to do different things.
Hybridization is the name of the game ever since creation began. When… And I would say this, let’s go back far into the first ever human template in our galaxy. Before the humans came into our galaxy, there was predominantly reptilian races in our galaxy. And again, reptilians aren’t all negative, they aren’t all positive. Even though the amount of negative ones are very, very small. It’s a very small percentage compared to the positive ones.
But the positive ones, you can’t even consider them positive. They’re more neutral. They’re just doing their own thing. This was an insectoid and a reptilian galaxy, including dragon races, which are some really beautiful races of dragons. When the humans, in a lot of the ways that it had worked before with genetics, was that the reptilians, they would incarnate into their own genetic group on the same planet over and over. They would recycle the soul. The grandfather would become the son.
would become its grandchild. But when the humans came in through Lyra, they were the master geneticists. These guys were all about genetic hybridization. Sure, other beings could have existed in this grand scheme of the entire Milky Way galaxy that did stuff like this, don’t know. But when they came in, they decided to, after incarnating to Lyra, to start hybridizing themselves throughout the galaxy, starting with three planets within Lyra.
And then they started venturing out in different millennias, different tribes venturing out, going around the galaxy, finding native populations on planets and hybridizing themselves. And then you keep having that for eons and eons and eons. And now you get to the story of Earth, where you have the story of the Lyrons, the Pleiades, and the Arcturians hybridizing on Earth. You have the story of the Anunnaki, which is the most famous one hybridizing on Earth. So the hybridization thing has happened forever. Now on Earth in this moment,
Neil Gaur (26:45.45)
There’s regular neutral hybridization programs where races are being created, utilizing our genetics because we are a petri dish of information. There’s so much variation on Earth. This variation doesn’t exist in the galaxy on this level. It’s the perfect place to go and pick something and do something and create something from it. What happens is when beings become sentient, the original spark of source, you can’t even judge them because the original spark of source
awakens in them. What was the original spark of source? I want to create something in my image. The creator being. Let me create in my image. Every being that becomes sentient just has this urge to create. Look at humans, how much we create. Even life. They go around, it’s almost like an addiction creating on that level. There’s those beings and now then there is ones connected to the government that maybe have some nefarious agendas in mind. Even on those, the jury is out because
you look at some of those stories that have been given from whistleblowers and experiencers, and the stories that they give is that these beings are trying to, as you said, save themselves or they’ve accidentally done a genetic hiccup within their own evolution where they’re now not able to experience certain types of emotions and things and they’re trying to figure out how they can acquire it back. The answer to that is basically hybridization has been going on ever since the beginning.
and it just continues in so many levels here on Earth.
Josh Dippold (28:18.08)
It is pretty wild, you know, I don’t know the full scope of this. I’m just piecing it together like third hand, you know, because my level of awareness is not where I can access this stuff directly. And so it’s all for me kind of speculation and conjecture and conceptualization, unfortunately, but there is some kind of maybe sense here beyond just the mainstream, but maybe not either. So I’m just wondering, you know, what if there’s some of these races that just keep making
mistake after mistake. I mean, I don’t think you you seem to be more of along the path of this is kind of not predetermined or fated, but, all happening for a purpose in a reason. But what happens? So I guess where I have to approach this then is harm, you know. And so while I might not know exactly what another considers harm, I know what what’s considered harmful for me. But
Neil Gaur (28:58.666)
There is no…
Neil Gaur (29:17.142)
Right.
Josh Dippold (29:17.526)
So what I’m saying is if some of these programs go on and there’s a of a consensus that certain things, let’s just say this is all theoretical hypothetical, and that they’re harming something and then they’ve messed up and they’ve even acknowledged that and they want to keep doing this over and over again. This time it will be different. This time we can fix it. So if that is the case, how long do we allow this for?
without falling into giving it the excuse of eternalism, falling into this extreme of eternalism where I find just, mean, metaphysically here, I’ll just explain why I think that’s an extreme because if it’s internalism, what if I want to get out? Okay, I can’t. It goes on forever. Okay, but I don’t want that. I want to get out of this cycle of rebirth. You know, I want to get off this wheel, but I can’t because it’s eternal.
Neil Gaur (30:09.75)
Yeah.
Josh Dippold (30:13.442)
too bad so so what i’m saying is so so a lot of times i feel that some beings will metaphysically or spiritually use this excuse of eternalism to say well it goes on forever so we can just try as many times as we want you know what will eventually get it right do you know what i’m saying here so
Neil Gaur (30:32.15)
Are you speaking about reincarnation in particular or you speaking about hybridization?
Josh Dippold (30:37.006)
Yeah, well, let’s go into both because I mean, if you can, if you’d like to address these things, you know, like how many chances do we give them and at what expense? Not that it, I’m just trying to, you yeah.
Neil Gaur (30:50.518)
Well, with the hybridization thing, almost is no way to stop it unless it comes out into the public and is commonly accepted that this is happening. The only way to really stop it is maybe to know your own sovereignty where you don’t allow it to happen to you. Then most people don’t even remember it’s happening. Most people don’t even know what’s going on. The people that do know are either traumatized or they’re in the realm of it was a good experience.
You know what mean? So it’s like, like, I talked to these ETs. They did this on here, but I had a great experience. Or, my God, I remember this happening to me. I’m traumatized. I’m in a support group because support groups exist and they even have a. Yeah, exactly. There’s even a comedy show based on that. Right. People of Earth, right. It was based on the support group for the ET hybridization program, basically. And yeah, that show is that show is basically about that. Yeah.
Josh Dippold (31:31.822)
It’s so polarized, isn’t it? Yeah.
Josh Dippold (31:44.766)
I see. Yeah, wow. No, haven’t. I haven’t seen it at the check it out.
Neil Gaur (31:51.382)
Oh yeah, yeah. long story short on that one, basically the whole show is about a support group of people that have been abducted and been hybridized and they even have a reptilian, Nordic, and a gray that are all homies on a spaceship in the sky and they’re all like, it’s really comical. so, and I’ve been to support groups and I know a lot of people that have been abducted have these experiences and some people, as I said, super traumatized. Many of them aren’t even in the spiritual worlds. They don’t even have the tools on how to heal from it.
and then other people are just like, yeah, communicative ETs and this is what they’re trying to do. So again, we don’t really even know if it’s even a bad thing of what’s happening here and what’s really being affected. Because then these people like Bashar and other beings that are being channeled that are saying that our soul came up with this agreement beforehand. So because we aren’t all knowing, we don’t know if they’re just telling us that, right? Or if that’s the case.
So the only thing that could happen to shift that is us to evolve even more so we get to a point where we know the truth and or all this stuff comes out in the open about it. And it’s hopeful that it will come out in open because the last congressional hearing on UAPs in Congress, lo and behold, finally, because they said, lot of whistleblowers have said that you never, no matter what happens, the government is never allowed, anybody in the government is never allowed to talk about hybrids. It’s just a no talk.
zone. And one of the congressional members said, we’ve heard that there could be stories that people are being genetically hybridized using these black budget programs with, and I was mind blown, like in Congress, in DC, you know. So it’s getting on that level, yeah.
Josh Dippold (33:27.722)
Same, same, yeah. And it is good news, even though that we know the levels of deception here and how vast and deep it runs, and that there’s certain factions that have it in their interest to just run it as another Psy-Up, right, and use it for their agendas and do limited hangouts or just Psy-Up. However, you know, it will sharpen our discernment. Hopefully, it will force people to sharpen discernment, I feel.
Neil Gaur (33:53.428)
Right.
Josh Dippold (33:57.591)
So I think that at the end of the day, this knowing what is true and what is not, what is in operation, what is not, and what the agendas are, how do we view it, and then how do we respond to it, what we really need to pay attention to, and how we need to pay attention to it. the other thing, this notion of disclosure, hopefully it’s more and more at the forefront.
Neil Gaur (34:14.102)
Right.
Josh Dippold (34:27.49)
Yeah, what’s an intelligence op and what’s not and for what reason?
Neil Gaur (34:30.87)
Yep. know, an interesting thing as well, going back to Bashar, and I’m sure most people know who he is, but Daryl Anka who channels Bashar. So there’s six hybrid races from the grays. And I forget all the names right now, but every single one of them was an experiment, just like you said, how many times did they do it. So it six different places, and six planets have been inhabited with these different hybrids. And there were all different experimentations towards it. And then they finally mastered it, supposedly.
and they created a race called the Yael. The Yael is a hybrid human and gray being. Even the Esasani, which is Bashar’s civilization, is human gray, which is one of the hybrid races. What Bashar says and other people have also said is that the first race we’re going to ever meet is the Yael because they’re the closest in ancestry to us, the closest in genetics to us.
and they already have space travel. They’re going to come here on Earth and we’re going to meet them and they’re going to teach us space travel. If his story is legit, that would be more of a positive outlook on what’s going on with the hybridization program.
Josh Dippold (35:46.304)
It is and have you does he include in that I don’t keep up with Bashar that some people use certain type of grays. Some beings will use that as their operators in here to keep their hands clean. That way they don’t have to operate directly. He includes those type of grays.
Neil Gaur (35:59.115)
Yeah.
So, I, you he’s done, he spoke so much. I, and I’ve heard a lot of it, but I haven’t heard anything about that with him. I’ve just heard about the greys doing that. But then there are like certain mantis beings that use greys. I’ve heard that certain government factions that use greys. And that could go into the fact that greys just a blanket term. It’s not actually one race. There’s many different greys. There’s different size greys. And also then there’s stories of the greys from Lyra, which were.
basically humans that had to go underground and lost ability to give birth. And then there’s the grays that are interdimensional that have been jumping universes. And one of the grays, let me just say this, one of the government whistleblowers says that this race of grays said that, hey, we are you from the future. And this is going to happen to you guys if you don’t change stuff over here on Earth.
which then allowed for the violation of a lot of people’s free wills on earth through abductions. But then another person says that that gray was from a parallel reality where they lived in a completely different trajectory in their universe. Our trajectory might not even be anything similar to theirs. They’re just using that in order to make the government basically agree to allow them to experiment on us. It’s very confusing. There’s so much going on.
Josh Dippold (37:19.438)
Yeah, it’s so wild. It totally is. not to mention, to muddy the waters further with the grays, that you have some that will come and cloak themselves as light beings, Or they can use it to appear as something they’re not to begin with, but they’re a gray behind that. And then not to mention the kind of more darker military my lab stuff I’ve heard of.
let’s just say, trauma-based mind control stuff where there’s human people dressed up as grays when they’re doing these kinds of operations and programming, I’ve heard too. So that’s really messed up, you know, to get people to think it’s that in order to blame an alien species instead of when it’s just all nefarious humans doing this, you know what I mean? So it is, yeah, yeah, it’s…
Neil Gaur (38:09.578)
Yeah, the silence is real man. I’ll give you another one. There’s this good YouTube channel called Infographics Show. I don’t know if you heard of it. It’s like a cartoon style thing where they do things around the world. But they also do some interesting ones on government, CIA documents, things like that, reenactments with cartoons. And they reenacted a CIA declassified document of a guy that was a military guy that was in his room.
They sent in this arm this arm probe and it went through the room it grabbed him it took him out of the room ripped him out of his window and brought him into a lab and the whole thing was a stage alien abduction and it was a declassified document and so in yeah It was all physical. It was all physical. It was Yeah, basically it was like a claw It was a
Josh Dippold (38:56.608)
Now, what was the arm in the physical? Are you talking about in the dream world? Okay, but go ahead.
Josh Dippold (39:07.074)
Yeah, but like, is it disembodied? Like, how did that thing operate?
Neil Gaur (39:11.806)
It was a tech- no, it was a technology so it doesn’t say where it came from but I’m thinking like he’s in a military base. This is happening in a military base while he was in his, in his dormitory. And so it took him underground and then basically they, I don’t know if they were dressed up as grays or they gave him screen memories but it looked like a regular abduction experience and this was a declassified document speaking about all the stuff that had happened in that moment.
Josh Dippold (39:23.074)
I see. Okay.
Josh Dippold (39:39.438)
And then there could be a counter-op to make that look absurd to discredit those type of operations too. Like, where does an arm come from? Does he remember how that arm took him to a certain facility? I mean, did he float through the air? So there’s just so many dirty tricks in this game too. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Neil Gaur (39:58.42)
Right. We already know as well that something that definitely happened through J. Hynex information and also Richard Doty is that there were some advanced craft that was being worked on by the US government or maybe other black budget governments in the world. And what they would do is they would prop up UFO stories in order to move it away from their technology to have people start thinking that it was UFOs, right?
So that’s one level of it, but the inception part is a lot of those craft were reverse engineered from actual UFOs.
Josh Dippold (40:33.996)
Yeah, exactly. it’s this layer upon layer upon layer and then countering layers at every layer, know, in sub layer. So what do you think about this whole drone thing? What’s your take on that? Yeah, like the New Jersey drones and the stuff still people see and whatnot,
Neil Gaur (40:35.391)
Yeah.
Neil Gaur (40:40.34)
Right, right.
Neil Gaur (40:46.422)
the one that was happening a few months ago.
Yeah. Okay, so a colleague and friend, JK Ultra, did the best breakdown on that. And she looked at all these documents showing that there was actually a drone program that was scheduled to launch by the US government at that point. And then in those papers, it also showed the window of where the experimentations were going to be. And it was exactly in that exact window strip of where all these drones were in New Jersey, right? However,
Josh Dippold (41:16.91)
Well, hang on. Where did she get this information from? Was it public or what? Because the FFA, they first denied that they didn’t know what it was. Then they came out and said, oh, this is an FAA secret program. So they went back on their word, right?
Neil Gaur (41:21.334)
Yeah, it’s called this
Neil Gaur (41:30.632)
It was public documentation. was from some, I forget what it was, Navy or something, whoever was the ones actually experimented with it. They had basically done press releases on this on their website. And she pulled in all this stuff and you could see it. She did like a TikTok video that’s four minutes long where she shows all the documentation and everything. But it had been actually in the works for a few years about this drone program and the testing strip. It wasn’t released in the newspaper, but it was part of their documentation and it wasn’t classified information, right?
That was one component of it all. However, what we saw at that moment, it wasn’t just New Jersey in that area, it wasn’t the only drones. They were all over the world. There was a drone in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean following a British Navy ship. There were drones following Air Force pilots home, all at the same time. I feel like it was a bit of everything.
reverse-internet craft, advanced drone program, UFOs, and maybe the drone testing was deliberately scheduled to be around the same time that they thought there would be all these sightings or when these sightings occurred. I’ve looked at a lot of people. I don’t think anybody has the exact answer, but from looking at some of the descriptions of what was happening, including these massive drones the size of an SUV having no sound at all.
And then some of them looked like there were orbs phasing in and out of reality. Some of looked like metal structures. I don’t know who knows what the truth is, but it definitely was a very, very confusing time. I wish that we would get some good information about it, but I don’t know. It’s hard to know.
Josh Dippold (43:16.396)
Yeah, exactly. It’s the same thing. I’ve heard little bitty pieces here and there, but it doesn’t sound like there’s a definitive consensus on this phenomenon whatsoever.
Neil Gaur (43:23.424)
But even like, even a drone falling in Air Force General home, that in itself, if it’s not some UFO ET thing, shouldn’t it have been like put towards some sort of investigation because could it be terrorists? Who could it be, right? Instead, when the Trump administration came out, they just said, they were all ours. They were all test, you know?
Josh Dippold (43:47.938)
Yeah, but I thought they also said that they didn’t know what it was at some point. Then they said, was a FAA experimentation. And then he said that. then I don’t think they didn’t scramble any military jets towards them right or try to shoot them down or anything. So that’s very interesting too.
Neil Gaur (44:06.272)
Yeah, well, it was before the election this happened, And then, like, they did nothing about it. They just said, this is happening, blah, blah. But if it was something to look into, you would be freaked out and looking into it. And then as soon as Trump went in, because he promised that he’s going to look into it, the first press conference they had, they said, we looked into it. We found out the information. They’re ours. So if Biden knew that they were ours, why wouldn’t he have just said that? You know?
Josh Dippold (44:35.422)
Yeah, there’s probably a lot going on behind the scenes that we have no idea what’s going on, you know.
Neil Gaur (44:39.616)
Definitely.
Josh Dippold (44:40.974)
Well, wow, we covered a lot of ground here. think we probably ought to wrap it up now. mean, of course, there’s so much more we could go into tons and tons is your knowledge base and experience base on this is really deep. And I appreciate all the time and work you’ve done on this and not to mention, you know, your website portals to Ascension and all the stuff you have going on there. Wow. I don’t I don’t know how you do it. There’s just so much. So tell people a little bit about
Neil Gaur (44:58.048)
Thank you.
Josh Dippold (45:11.008)
that and anything else you want to tell people about.
Neil Gaur (45:12.554)
Sure. so portal2centra.org is my website. You can go there, sign up. You get free access to a lot of content. But I started in 2008 doing small events around the world, around the US, mean, and sound healing events. But that evolved for eight years until 2016, where I started doing online webinars and conferences, moved everything from live in person to online. And now we have over 10,000 hours of content. We do around 70 events a year.
conferences, webinars, tours, retreats. We did our first seven day cruise last year. We do three conferences a year, one in Glastonbury, England, one in San Diego, and then another one that travels to different country every year, plus our online content. The event might have happened before this is out, but on June 14th, we have a Saturn and Elohim conference, a whole nine hour event just on evidence and truth about Saturn and its connection to the moon and the matrix.
and who the Elohim are. So what I’ve had the opportunity to do is any piece of information I want to go deep into, we expand it into one, two day events or do a workshop with that speaker and really have become a one-stop shop for consciousness. So for people that are waking up right now, that want to go somewhere where they can have something curated in a way that helps get them to those levels of understanding and awareness, or to those people that are the teachers for the new paradigm that want to further their knowledge, you know, we have it all there. And it’s just,
It’s just been an honor really to be able to do this and I love the fact that I can do this full time because it’s the most interesting story ever told. Who are we? How do we get here?
Josh Dippold (46:46.464)
What else is there? Yeah. Seriously, what could be more important than questions like that? Well, Neil, thanks so much again for joining. yeah, implore people to check it out, especially interested in anything we’re talking about. There’s just so much material that you said 10,000 hours. Wow. Amazing. All right. With that, may all beings everywhere realize awakening and be free. Bye now.
Neil Gaur (46:57.439)
Thank you.
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