Fearlessly Rediscovering Humanity With Colin Kingsmill

On August 17, 2023, Strategic Advisor, entrepreneur, coach and reformed “seeker of success” and ambition Colin Kingsmill and I conversed about cultural cohesion, work-life balance, direction, knowing thyself, antiquated performance reviews, toolkits, integrity, burnout, core values, goals, men/guys (not) expressing needs, nourishment, progressing, living with intention, jettisoning unhelpful conditioning, being free, changing narratives, trauma, awareness, media diets, media as big business, self-kindness, health, reconnecting and rediscovering collective humanity and ourselves, healing in a toxic culture, fear, fearlessness, listening to the body, daily rituals, therapy, resiliency, and addressing psychological suffering by reaching out

Biography

Colin Kingsmill is an entrepreneur, coach and Founding Partner at Whole Human Coaching and a Strategic Advisor to Kaylo. He is currently authoring a book entitled “Fear Less: Crossing the Bridge from Fear to Bliss.”

When people get stuck at critical transition points in their lives, he assists them in deconstructing the stories in their heads, overcoming fear, and reconstructing a new narrative to move forward, live their authentic selves and thrive. He has an acute ability to sense-make in this complex world.

His ability to fast-track clarity of mind with insight and humour guides people of all ages through relationship dynamics, confidence building, self-improvement, overcoming challenges and achieving desired results.

He believes that we have lost touch with our shared humanity and have become distracted by division, identity politics, negative news cycles, corporate and special interest greed and other forces that crush our souls.

He is on a mission to help people rediscover their humanity, be fearless and free, and remember who they are and who they will be to change the world.


About Colin by Colin:

I was born in Canada and raised between the Gulf Islands of British Columbia and the Swiss Alps. I have lived and worked (fallen and gotten back up again) globally, from Bora Bora and Beverly Hills to Montenegro & Serbia, London, Tuscany, the Indian Ocean, Thailand and everywhere in between.

The first part of my career was in Swiss banking. I did it for 10 years; co-founding an investment firm, until I broke in 2001 after having ticked all the boxes of “success”: MBA in Finance and Marketing, marriage, entrepreneurship. Christmas in St. Moritz and Easter in St. Tropez kind of stuff. You get the picture. In 2001 I gave everything I owned away (Buddha style) and moved back to Vancouver to start fresh. Literally, I began to redesign everything from scratch.

I have spend the last 20 years in international sales & marketing, branding and communications. I have really seen it all, from flying in private jets, sailing on super yachts, and mingling with industry titans; meeting Hillary Clinton and Elton John and hanging out in George Clooney’s villa on Lake Como when it was owned by the Heinz family. On the flip side of all the shiny stuff, I have also suffered the hardships of divorce and personal bankruptcy, depression and crippling anxiety.

My whole adult life I have said “yes” to opportunities without knowing what was coming next or what the consequences might be. Now I am writing Fear Less: Crossing the Bridge from Fear to Bliss, 8 steps to fearless living bringing this tapestry of life experiences to serve others.

Thanks to this vast collage of experiences, I have become an expert in helping people fearlessly pivot and make meaningful shifts in their lives when they find themselves stuck or at a daunting intersection professionally or personally.

After spending the last twelve years living and working in Europe, now I reside in the peaceful seaside town of Mahone Bay in Nova Scotia, Atlantic Canada connected to nature where I can best serve my high-performing clients.

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this is Josh with integratingpresence.com and that was actually Neil not Josh a

friend of mine who said that he’s me Josh is me and I know it’s a cliche line

but that was fun and here’s the First new podcast since I’m back in Denmark

from the UK this first go-round holness and welcome this is Josh dippold of

integratingpresence.com and today I have Colin uh Kingsmill with me Colin how’s

it going going good thank you greetings from Atlanta Canada so what I usually do for

someone I don’t know as well on the podcast here is throw it back to my guest to talk a little bit about

themselves say who they are and what they do and Collins already chewed me in on a little bit of a story here but I

would just have him jump right back into it here again yeah hey Josh uh so so

like you I’m not a big lover of BIOS

speaking about myself but um yeah

so so uh today what I do I do I do a few things I I’m I’m I love to podcast and

have conversations like this so so that’s becoming a really from from kind of hobby to to much more I do uh private

against Executive coaching with CEOs and entrepreneurs and I work with a team that I’m co-founder of called whole

human coaching that works with with really much more with teams and uh our

mission is to create cultural cohesion within uh companies that um

are going through a massive transformation right uh the world I think has changed dramatically in the last few years and and uh workforces and

people and Humanity have kind of um gone forward and I think the the work the work world is catching up so we’re

helping them bridge that Gap and um I’m also writing a book called Fearless which is designed to really help people

cross that bridge from Fear to Bliss and um so that’s yeah that’s The Abridged

version of what I what I do today well right on the the the the big thing about your work now cultural cohesion

it’s a big thing why don’t we just jump into that real quick sure yeah like first off just what is how would you

define that and then kind of what’s what’s been lacking on it and then what’s being done now in general

yeah I think it’s it’s it’s kind of a two-step process right um what’s if if we look at from um from

a sort of a mega Trends perspective what has happened in the last 20 or 25 years has been has been such an expansion of

Novel things right that our biology is is is

n’t even caught up to the the technology the technological technical I can’t even say it the technological advancements

that we’ve made in the past sort of 15 or 20 20 years so our bodies are still adjusting to that now if you think of

the the workplace and the the work culture and the work environment especially post what happened uh over

the last three years which I don’t even want to say the word but what what happened over the last three years

really I think shifted people’s minds right and shifted their values and

people began to think differently and want different things and define success differently or to even Define

how they want to work with the corporation we’ve met a lot of people that are that are perfectly content not

to climb a corporate ladder right they’re really happy where they are they

have great life work life balance they they want to stay there and they’re really content uh whereas the pressure

is to push them up and push them forward and all those things that we kind of hinted on before so the idea of cultural

cohesion is all right big company or little company doesn’t

really matter are you aligned you know is your business Mission values

brand promise is it aligned to where your human Workforce is in their minds

right and so often it’s not and what so

so what we do is we work with individuals right within the within the

organization to go okay well what is your North Star what is your

um uh kind of leadership toolkit right and that’s made up of for me it’s like what are your values what are your needs

what is the destination that you want to get to and what is you know kind of your personal brand within the organization

itself right so what we do is we we help people understand who they really are right and then we work with the leaders

and the managers and the c-suite to make sure that the Mission Vision and values of the

company are actually being executed right so often so often we see in businesses

you’ll have you know the mission statement on the wall or the motivation statement on the wall you have all these sort of statements right but are they

real are they being executed right we hear a lot about you know people in in

business saying you know I’m kind of I’m kind of disillusioned because my our mission and vision says this and it’s a

beautiful brand promise but ultimately I just get I just get told to look at the numbers in the Excel spreadsheet so it’s

really that that helping leaders and teams come together

with true depth right that’s required today and then helping the individuals

in those teams really kind of discover who they are and if we can do that then

those two should come closer together that’s the idea well right on and I’m wondering now

um if sometimes it’s just discovered that and agreed to that the individual

is just not a good fit anymore or just not a good yeah and so how that process

goes on if that’s the case I mean not to get into a bummer here but I mean it can potentially benefit the individual and

the company if and how that process works yeah absolutely and I’ll tell you how

that how I’ll tell you how that works right so so if you’re in an if you’re in

in a in an organization and you haven’t

um you haven’t done the in-depth work on who you are right so that’s why it’s this leadership toolkit North Star right

of what are my what really are my values right what are my needs in in there what

what is my personal brand like what what do I want people to be saying about me right and where do I want to be going so

if if you don’t have that kind of structure in place for yourself

do you have the um there’s the possibility that you’re going to be bobbing around within an organization

right so they tell you where to go they tell you what to do um the the the performance reviews are

kind of upward downward sort of waterfall that you might not be ready for we’re we’re also in cultural

cohesion we’re looking at how to rethink the performance review right because those are very Antiquated tools we think

right so so so this I this idea the the idea is

you’re right that that if you discover who you are right and you have a solid

kind of toolkit for yourself when something comes along in the

organization that like a new opportunity or or some work or whatever you’re going to instantly know if it’s aligned to who

you are right and and so you can quickly say you know what I don’t think that’s

for me or yes that’s for me because it it connects with my toolkit and if you

are if you’re recognizing that wow all these things that are coming my way aren’t really fitting me then you know

that it’s time to move on and that’s good for you and that’s good for the organization because if you are if

you’re in an organization and you’re not living in that sort of Integrity of Who

You Are then then you begin to see signs of burnout you know depression maybe anger

management uh boundary setting saying yes when you want to say no

um you know there’s all the symptoms of not being aligned and and and you know

it could be even social interaction at work you don’t want to connect with teams or you don’t want to connect

socially or outside the office etc etc so it’s really um

I think I you you’re right it could it could mean that I need to change but

Hallelujah don’t don’t wouldn’t you rather right exactly and this is would

have been so helpful for me years and years ago when I was still in the corporate world uh and this identifying

these core values have been so helpful for me and I I I I share this with folks

too that and then instead of living uh you know a goal obsessed lifestyle where

you know one goal ends and then it’s just on and on one after the other and I’m not saying don’t set goals obviously

not it’s just when we can identify these I don’t know two to four you know

somewhere around there things that just really make my heart sing make me come

alive just kind of no to my bones and then every time I can align with them

then I live from that place and just about every interaction I have can be

more satisfying and more fulfilling and I I can keep myself in check with that

too I can bounce these off of people I respect and admire and teachers and

advisors and get add more wisdom to these as we interact in everyday life

too so talk about how you um maybe just about core values in general and that

are anything similar to this and how you might lead people through identifying those and living and aligning with those

yeah so so that’s I love I love uh I love your point about goal setting because uh it’s obviously very important

but but for me as you create that North Star over that that toolkit for yourself

uh when I say you know what is your destination for me it’s more about what

it’s more about a picture it’s almost like what what what what do you what

would you like your life to look like if it was a painting right or uh or an abstract or whatever and so that the

destination is more about a feeling a sense of place right a sense of of of of

of where of where you where you feel most centered and most most rounded and

most and most you so so the destination does not have to be I want to be you

know in New York in a c-suite thing at the on the 60th floor managing 20 000 people it could be but but it’s more

it’s more about how do you want to feel in the pursuit of your purpose right as

opposed to again a finite sort of check box thing that thing that you want to get to how

do you want to feel how do you want to be how do you want to be you know Express that so that that being said

getting to your values is is a sometimes

can be a really challenging exercise because again like I was saying to you

before we’re not taught these things we’re not especially guys today men today aren’t taught

how to express their needs right what what what what are the what what

are the values that really drive you so um I was speaking to somebody just just

in this past week where the discovery of your personal values is

is diving deep into those instinctual kind

of gut feelings that you’ve got and expressing them so that’s the exercise

in that’s the exercise that you have to do um it’s not easy this it’s it’s not an easy

process it sometimes it brings up a lot of things in people it might bear it might bring up some traumas it might

bring up you know a lot of stuff so so we need to we need to

we need to to get to your sort of True Value core system sometimes we need to

deconstruct the narratives and the stories that you’ve got in your head right to reconstruct new ones around

those value systems and um and

and you know in that in that in that process of of going deep then you can

then you can articulate them some people

don’t even know what they are and don’t know what their needs are don’t know

what nourishes them they just they just know when their fuel tank is empty right

these are very important points that reminds me of this classic kind of um

philosophical and spiritual saying know thyself and once these are identified they don’t have to be stuck to either we

can CH we change and evolve what is it Muhammad Ali said something like if you’re still the same man you are at um

50 that you are at 20 you’ve wasted what 30 years of your life so uh you know so

it just that’s what I found helpful is is being open to evolving and

progressing towards uh even once we we think we’ve identified having an open

mind and and going you know yeah you know is it open to changing and revising those too

and and at the same time knowing that one where we once were is

it was part of our journey as well too and there’s nothing wrong with that that part in past in our time yes

absolutely I I I you know I kind of I think I’ve had three chapters in my life

and I don’t regret any of them right um but what I what the work that I do

love to do with people that I think is beneficial is yeah okay that was my past

let’s let’s dive let’s dive deep into yourself into into you to find to

discover who you know who you really are and let’s design let’s design the next chapter with intention right and

I’ll tell you why because I see a lot of people living life whether it’s

personally or professionally or both with a lot of lenses like opaque lenses

that they’re looking through and the the work that I love to do is

say all right forget about everything you’ve learned right

um and I don’t mean that in you know forget about you know what you learned in

mathematics class or how to type or whatever but forget about the conditioning

that is no longer serving you okay and and let’s let’s remove those opaque

lenses so you can see clearly right and once you can see clearly right once

you’ve stopped and said oh okay this is who I am right and this is my this is my

this is my purpose this is my destination my toolkit once you’ve got that and you’ve cleared out the old the old

stories and the old narratives then I think life can really become unlimited you know

um and and free so so my whole thing is is

let’s let’s let’s get you to a place of freedom

right um yeah absolutely this is one of my important no no this is one of my core

values too is being free and uh I think at least from it you know I’m an

American and I know there’s this big narrative in the country that you know

we’re the freest nation in the world well it really depends on what you mean by that I mean to me

um there’s enough of an externality of Freedom that if you really want to you

can have the opportunity to go within which I find is where you’re going to find the real uh being free uh so I

don’t want to get into politics so much but I I think it it is an inch uh mainly

an inside job you know how we view things how we perceive things and then how we respond to things and you can

talk a little bit more about um identifying these narratives and changing narratives as well but I really

like your notion of living from intention because you know basically all

of our actions are driven from an intention even if they’re on habit

pattern on repeat there was an intention some point along the line it seems that

has driven this Behavior even if it’s from our ancestors if they had something encounter something in their lives and

then they had an intention to to do something different and to start this habitat and then that might have just

got passed on through the generations and so we might just be repeating something we learned from our parents

that we have no idea why they’re doing it that way you know but at one point it was driven from intention yeah

oh 100 I completely agree with you you know we we and and when I say you know

when I say things like trauma I mean I mean small tea trauma right conditioning um uh that maybe uh I mean you know

inside your mother’s womb maybe you maybe it was malnutrition maybe there was fear maybe there was Financial insecurity all of those messages get

transmuted into the child right and into the body and into the mind and early

childhood development all of that has a massive impact I think and I do believe ancestral knowledge can also you know

does come through um so so I guess the trick for us in

this kind of modern uh society that we live in is is to find that awareness

right and then find that intention and find that

responsibility and make it a daily practice because going back to the point of freedom and we don’t have to get into

politics at all I don’t think but but but uh but we may be free in you know in

Canada or the United States but there is I think we are up against a

massive um I don’t want to say a battle but we have to fight every day

to have that freedom and that Clarity and that that intention because we are

being bombarded by you know whether it’s social media whether it’s food whether

it’s big Pharma whether it’s government whether it’s mainstream media uh all of

those things are bombarding us every day and then

I love that book by by Brett Weinstein about the hunter-gatherer’s guide to the 21st century that says or or you know

we’re we’re not ready for that right so so I say to the people that I work with first of all be gentle to yourself

because it’s a it’s crazy out there and the the first

thing to do is is to start to kind of create some kind of personal Kryptonite right

how do you how do you protect yourself from all of those forces that

um are taking away your freedom or designed to take away your freedom right so just

look at Pharmaceuticals right well um you know you go to the doctor and you

say you’re not quite you know you’re feeling a little bit off well they’re going to give you uh you know antidepressants or anti-anxiety or

antipsychotics or something right instead of asking you about you know how’s your food how’s your sleep how’s

your nutrition how’s your spirituality what are you reading like what do you what are you consuming are you you know

are you watching the news at 11 PM at night are you consuming sort of garbage food so I agree Freedom yes

but you got to be a freedom fighter almost you know I think

these are really good points and we talked earlier about nourishment though and what you just spoke to Rings true

with identifying what nourishes us uh you know you might get a quick high from

or a quick Boost from junk food or you know a substance

um or even just kind of uh spewing out outrage or something like this but sure

you know taking the time to to just seeing what really um nurture

provides a healthy nutriment you’re talking about media diets it’s the same thing right people it’s it seems so

obvious to me now but back in the day you know it wasn’t and so it’s it’s just

like what you eat would you would you put you know crappy food or eat poison basically is what a lot of these media

diets are and it’s kind of ironic here because we’re creating some media here but I I mean there are plenty of great

media out there still that will um you know nourish our mind our emotions you know our conscious or

feelings yeah you know and I think I think I think you can categorize media in a

couple of uh into two categories right like the media that I think you and I are creating is in is intentional

and and I don’t think I think we have I think we I think we have good intention

behind it right whereas if you just switch on the news right and sit down

with it the intention there is to keep you there so that advertisers can sell

you something right I mean the base intention um so so it’s

it’s a question I think of being aware of what you’re eating whether it’s right and and and sitting down uh uh

on Twitter for an hour that’s fine as long as you know what they’re consuming

uh and you know it’s like eating a box of chocolates right you can sit there and eat one bump on at a time but be

aware that that’s what you’re doing I think um and be select so I always say I say

to people um stop watching the news and get informed

right so so stop watching the news which is just it’s a product right but if you

want to get informed there’s a hundred ways to do that right today especially

I totally agree I just don’t see the need to read anything uh you know a lot

of the a lot of the mainstream I mean a headline will be about about right and then can kind of go to um someone that

has a little bit more caring with just as much even maybe even more insight onto whatever particular issue it may be

like you’re saying the uh the the the major media outlets seem to just be

doing the bidding of their pay masters you know look it’s a business it’s a business model and sure and I I think I think a

lot of people uh forget that it’s just simply a business model there to sell you something right

um you know 40 years ago when we had three TV channels it was a different story but today the news is a product

um you’ve got to be you know read the ingredients you know what you’re getting right because the the the the mission

and intent is not really to inform it’s to keep you keep you there uh have you

come back um to pay for the advertisers that’s it’s really simple I mean yeah and it

gets this uh this dopamine hit but so I wonder how people get around this if

they’re really addicted to the news in this kind of um fear porn and doom and

gloom and uh you know sound bites in in this type of thing I know usually for me

it’s it’s getting off one habit that it helps to replace it with a healthier habit and yeah I think maybe just going

to other sources and still being informed but something that cares more about one’s well-being than not and then

let you address that and then I’ll just jump into another question here like just yeah in general what what kind of

um I think challenges do you see the most in your work these days you know like what is kind of the some of the

most important things that need addressing either on a societal level or

different various organizational levels even individual levels

on a societal level I think it would be great if we rediscovered our our Collective Humanity right

um because because of of what has been going on in the last sort of um five or

ten years with you know Division and cultivars and you know everything everything else

um I I think we’ve kind of lost our way we’ve lost our human our common shared

humanity and people forget that we’re on this Little Rock You Know spinning on its access at 1600 kilometers an hour

flying through Darkness space and the universe and and um

I think we forget that so from a societal perspective unlike let’s remember our Collective humanity

and let’s not give everything up to the unhuman corporation or the UN you know

the the unhuman institution because um you know stuff that’s going on in the world is is tragic and it doesn’t have

to be that way from a from a from a personal perspective I I see a lot of

people still struggling with living in integrity and living in Integrity I mean

living with who they really are um so I see a lot of people with masks I

see a lot of uh a lot of people with Stockholm Syndrome a lot of people uh who’s whose stress

levels it was kind of Baseline stress levels are so high that they’re getting

sick right and um has done a beautiful brilliant new book

called um the myth of normal and it’s about

um trauma and healing in a toxic culture toxic society today

and I think that’s kind of spot on with what’s with what’s with what’s going on the way we are living today

at least in the in the west in the United States and Canada is making us all very very sick because we are not

connected to that core of Who We Are

and living in that sort of in in that sort of but living in that integrity

right um so I think those are the two issues a disconnect from humanity and a

disconnect from ourselves like maybe they’re the same thing well they’re definitely hand in hand I I feel so like

what’s the solution to this then Colin what do we uh what do folks do about this I guess uh if if first it all

starts with ourselves and then if they want to reach out and um uh either I

don’t know about help others I don’t know if that’s the right way but be it be of service and and contribute uh you

know yeah even if it just means speaking out or certain things to pay attention to and certain things not to pay

attention to you have it look I think it’s all about being it’s all about being aware

being being uh and being intentional it’s about protecting yourself from with

sort of that kryptonite from all of these all of these things that are come coming at us and if you want you know defy really

Define your purpose Define your destination don’t let somebody somebody else um uh

design it for you you know I like I also like the sort of the ship net the ship metaphor where are you navigating to

what kind of ship are you what’s your cargo what are you bringing who are you bringing it to and why are you bringing

it so you know thinking about a much more sort of purpose-driven life and it

again you don’t have to be going and getting a Nobel Peace Prize it could be starting a family and raising you know a

couple of great kids but with intention with awareness right when you go to the

store you know look at the labels what are you buying where’s it from what’s the provenance it’s just it’s just wake

up people right and and in terms of what you do about it I mean

I think that’s an individual choice right I think I think everybody needs to decide what they want to do about it

I know I’m on a I’m on a mission to you know Humanity Integrity uh like uh

fearlessness and then Freedom right freedom from psychological suffering so you can just kind of fly and

um so I think it’s I think it’s one person at a time you know you’re doing what

you’re doing I’m doing what I’m doing and I do believe that that correct that

creates a ripple effect and you know even when we’re talking about about the environment or the climate right

fix yourself fix this fix this and this and this

first and the rest will follow so that’s my um that’s my recipe if you like

um beautiful I now we haven’t talked about fearlessness yet and I I really um

love this notion of fearlessness because I I just have to Echo that during these

what we’ve gone through the past few years I saw it quite early on of how on

both sides of the issue it on it was getting to extremes and there was fear

extreme fear on both camps and I just see that when

someone is in an extreme state of fear their nervous system suffers and their

immune system gets run ragged and I think that was the biggest thing out of

all of this on both sides of it um so what do you what do you have to say

about fear and fearlessness I know in my own journey I went through quite an extreme fear I would say years ago and

so I now have that reference point to be fearless and almost to the point where

there’s probably a few things that I would be better off having a little bit more fear about just in the in just in

the the only way I see that fear is helpful is that if it’s uh fear of

wrongdoing right fear of being completely unwholesome and unethical when we know better and know the

consequences of it the the fear of losing one’s reputation of um

dishonoring oneself and one’s family and friends that and I don’t wouldn’t really

call that a fear either I would just call that being Mindful and respectful and knowing the consequences and and

knowing better but but as far as general fear yeah what do you have to say to it and fearlessness too

yeah look I I I think unless unless you are in a uh uh what is it in one of those moments

of fear or flight or flight or what is that flight or state I can’t I can’t remember what it is but but if it’s if

it’s instinctual and you have to run from a lion yes okay great fight or

flight that’s it sorry I haven’t had enough coffee yet this morning so fight or flight my God absolutely it’s it we

need that right but when fear begins to dominate the you know your sort of all

of your decisions throughout the day um and and

yeah I’m not gonna don’t want to go down the you know if you’re a crazy psychopath and you’re

you’re but we’ll save that for another conversation but but fear to me is just

the most limiting energy around and the reason that I like to speak

about being Fearless is is because I have jumped off the deep end so many

times in my life after after sort of the the 2001 crash right it was like all

right how bad can it get try it do it say yes go for it dive into the unknown I’ve

done that for the last 25 years and it’s been um it’s been like this incredible roller

coaster ride right um with the lowest lows on the high tide and

and here I am right so I I so so my message is I’ve survived I’ve done it

it’s been exhilarating you can do it to break out of the breakout of your your circular Loop or the the cassette tape

that I’ve dated myself or the the you know the the the Press repeat lifestyle that you’re on

get out go for it break it so I’m like smash it right because of the because of

the life that I’ve had and what I what I tell to people is if you want to be Fearless you these are these are kind of

my pointers right it’s like that wall of protection so toxicity no gone get that

get that away whether it’s friends family news social media whatever it is uh work get out of there

um begin to listen to your body like another another great gabler mate book is when the body says no right this this

thing is telling us stuff all day long it’s sending us messages right but because of our sort of

um the velocity of our society that we live in we don’t listen right so wall of

protection then listen to listen to this design the life that you want design a

I’ve got my vision boards and my boards that they’re all here you know I I paint a picture of of what the next chapter is

going to look like and it always works so so once you once you’ve got the picture then you break it down into

bite-sized you know goals that you can that you can you know um manage

and you have to you have to you have to introduce daily rituals to stay on track because again we’re like

being being unless you’re somewhere very um quiet and spiritual but if you’re in

the modern West like you and I are um you need to have daily rituals to

make sure that you are staying right here right staying within within who who

you are um and then I think I’ve kind of said this before you know forget about what

you learned you know forget about the conditioning that’s not serving you and keep the stuff that is but get rid

of the stuff that isn’t and that might involve some trauma therapy some trauma and loss therapy it might involve some grief therapy it might involve you know

getting onto YouTube and you know doing a uh um going down the rabbit hole with with

you know Joe dispensive videos it doesn’t matter but but forget it and start reprogramming

um and that’s probably that’s probably it those are kind of the

the the the the the the you have to take proactive steps

to um protect yourself from Fear because we live in a society in a world that is uh

you know driven by it it’s a big consumer product right it totally is and it’s it’s almost

shocking how many people make decisions out of fear you know um and how many people are just so

um don’t want to leave their comfort zone either but then I know the other end of the extreme like they need to

find a comfort zone because they’re doing so many risky things all the time so it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s a balance

but yeah especially for people that are coming up in in pass you know I had to completely get off the train I was on on

in order to get on you know what I do didn’t exist I had to create it myself pretty much so that’s right and

um for me that’s it’s it’s found helpful having this deep trust like you’re saying that you survived everything up

to this point you know um trusting that we we are doing the best we can and if we could do better we

would um well we’re I think we’re much more resilient than we think we are I think

uh you know all you have to do is look at the statistics and the data around mental health and health in just in the

United States and to me that’s symptomatic

of not living in your integrity and and being fearful of not changing and

getting out of that closed loop so what what do you want which would you prefer

right exactly and we’ve we so many people have built up so many facades uh

and the things and the way they relate to people too and know that yeah sometimes when those are breaking down

it’s not going to be pleasant and it’s not going to look nice a lot of times but ultimately in the long term I feel

you people will be glad they they have done that you know and live in Integrity uh and just can feel the benefit in the

body and like you’re you’re saying that the body won’t lie our mind lies so much to ourselves has no shame it’ll do so

much with the body it doesn’t do that does it yeah right right absolutely

absolutely so um yeah

I agree well Colin it’s been a pleasure uh enjoy very very helpful and

enlightening here too would you like to leave uh folks with uh what events you

have going on uh what what kind of uh how people can get in touch with you in

any final words too of what you want to uh a message you want to leave with folks sure yeah so I mean anybody can

get in touch with me on my website it’s just Colin kingswell.com.cc

um but uh I guess the I guess the message that I’d that I like to leave people

with is is is that it doesn’t have to be like this if you are

in in a fearful place or a struggling place or a place of

psychological suffering just know that it doesn’t have to be this way there are

ways out so reach out not to me necessarily but just reach out there’s you know there’s all

sorts of apps and videos and you know I know you like insight timer I like it

too and Sam Harris is there’s all sorts of apps and and videos and resources

available today that there weren’t 20 years ago right um like well to us maybe I mean they’ve

been available for thousands of years but um there’s resources out there so go get

them you don’t deserve to to to to be in in psychological suffering at all

beautiful all right Colin thanks again for joining and may you all be blessed with the Optimal Health and life

um that you wish and desire for your long-term welfare and happiness and for

that of all beings everywhere may all beings everywhere realize Awakening and be free thanks for listening check out

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