May 2, 2024 UPDATE: Check out me guesting about cultivating mindfulness in everyday life on episode 17 for Aesha’s podcast 9 to 5 Wellness
This February 23, 2024 conversation with Aesha Tahir puts a strong emphasis on the importance of what she calls an unhunched posture. She relates how the body can best interact with electronic devices including tips on desks, device placement, what to do about bodily tension, practices for near sightedness, the importance of taking breaks, and eye strain. We also get into the connection between emotions and posture, how unhuncing can be a kind of journey, the intersection of Ayurveda and science and plenty more
About Aesha Tahir
After serving any years in corporate America as a software programmer, I left the Corporate world to pursue my passion for helping others discover courage and strength. I enjoyed my time in the corporate world, but I knew that the corporate environment was missing key elements of employee wellness leading to stress, burnout, and poor physical health. Now as a movement specialist and corporate wellness consultant I spread the joy of movement by helping corporate teams find joy and fulfillment in their work while living a heathy life.
Biography
Voted one of the most Inspiring Entrepreneur and Wellness Executives to watch by San Diego Voyager, Aesha Tahir is an award-winning author, keynote speaker, corporate trainer, and columnist. As a movement speacialist she has helped over 500 clients find pain free living. Her best selling book “Unhunched: Discover Wellness Through Posture,” entails all the secrets to an upright posture and pain free movement.
Links:
https://www.facebook.com/toneandstrengthen
https://www.instagram.com/tone_and_strengthen
https://www.linkedin.com/in/aeshatahir
https://www.youtube.com/@toneandstrengthen5984/featured
Audio: Unhunch A Bunch With Aesha Tahir
Or listen via Insight Timer (app or website)
The raw unedited YouTube transcription of this podcast:
holess welcome this is Josh tipold and today I have Aisha Tamir with me toah
here I’m sorry uh how’s it going Aisha it’s going well how are you oh I’m all
right and so who is Aisha and what does she
do okay yeah so um I’m an exercise physiologist and a corporate Wellness
consultant who helps organizations develop a culture of well-being uh when I’m working with the
organizations I design and facilitate um uh training programs corporate Wellness
training programs but my specialty is posture so having an UNH hunched posture
and upright posture is where I help clients um privately or in groups or at
in a corporate setting so let’s jum jump right into it then what is a hunch posture hunch easy
for me to say hunch posture and an UNH hunch posture yeah yeah so hunched over
posture is what you normally see people when they’re working at their um office
desk practice right when they’re especially working in front of a computer um and then all the other
technological devices with the cell phones especially we see that even more that exaggerated hunch over posture and
let me explain what it looks like it looks like your shoulders are rounded
your chin is dropped to your chest so now your you are bending your neck and then we have a a significant Bend in our
thoracic spine too so that is how it looks for our upper body and that’s what
we call uh a hunch over posture now now what is proper posture or UNH hunched
posture um that would be kind of opposite of what we are practicing at
this time um and so it the hunched over
posture is a closed posture and I like to always bring this to people’s
attention that uh it’s a closed posture because we’re literally closing our
heart chakra when we are there
and when we close our heart chakra which is our main energy
center the it’s going to disrupt the flow of energy in our
bodies so let’s see what an un hunched posture does un hunched posture means
that your shoulders are soft and they are back it’s almost like you’re
dropping your shoulder blades into your pants back back pocket so you’re really nice and open with your chest so your
chest is proud and then you’re going to lift your head up so that make sure one of the
ways to do that is to make sure that your screen is aligned with your eyes so
it’s in line with your eyes so you’re not looking down continuously to take a better look same thing you’re not
looking too far forward to take a better look make sure it’s appropriately appropriately distanced um what we say
is um the appropriate is like an arm length away so your screen should be arm length away when that is possible when
that is happening when you have that setup you will have your chin away from your chest and your head would be
aligned over your spine another you know significant um aspect of an UNH hunched
posture and then if we look at the lower body what we want to see is that your shoulders are stacked above your hips
when you’re seated or standing you know because a lot of people are now using standing desks which are amazing for
your posture because you can take a break and you can vary your positions so that’s an a very very important uh tip
for people who want to fix their posture you don’t want to stay in one position
for a very long period of time the more you do the more rigid and tense your muscles
become and then you practice that hunch over posture so let me just uh review
the UNH hunched posture one more time starting from the top so your head should be in line with your spine and
your chin should be away from your chest so you’re you are looking straight ahead
in front of you um at the computer screen and then your shoulders should be
soft and relaxed and shoulder blades should be dropping down towards your
hips shoulders stacked above your hips and then plant your feet comfort L on
the ground while you’re seated or standing this is really helpful and I
was in online marketing for a while and one of the reliefs I was when I got out of it was that I wasn’t in front of a
computer so much but now I find myself you know working for my own thing and and back in front of a computer so I’m
in front of it more than I’d like to admit now that these are very helpful and now these are specifically Geared
for um kind of off office work and being in front of a computer which I find in
today’s society especially in certain demographics is very helpful and people need to know this kind of basic
information around it but it’s it’s it’s it’s simple but it’s not easy and it’s profound you know these things that we
take for granted a lot of times now my issue with this when I get into well first off I’m nearsighted and I’m too
stubborn to wear my glasses and they they burn my eyes so I do find myself if I have to read hunch or leaning into the
computer computer more um a couple other things I want to just see if you have any advice on I find myself pushing
through when I I feel the tension in my body right but I ignore it in order to
get through what I’m getting through and working on and you know just keep my
when I know I need to just stop and take a break and realign or do something different because I can feel the tension
in my muscles building up but my mind overrides it and I keep pushing through um and so then there’s Sometimes some
irritability or you know just kind of annoyance um or just you know physical
tension that’s that’s um one of the things uh that that’s probably the the
main thing uh when I’m in front of a computer and then I also want to talk uh a little bit later after this about the
meditative context of posture so what would you say to these things of um that
me being nearsighted not weing where my glasses I mean the the obvious answer is to get glasses that don’t burn my eyes
but I I just don’t I don’t see that happen anytime soon and then this tension H in the
body yeah you bring up a lot of good questions over here so I’m going to
decipher them uh one by one the glasses part of course as you just said you know
wear the glasses or find a pair of glasses that work good well for you but
um our eyes play a huge role in proper posture because you know the way you
hold your body the way you position your body depends on your perception of you
where you are in space right so there’s one exercise I give to professionals who
are like you you know working long hours really really focused um and are having
issues with the computer screen like getting a better look at the computer screen and leaning forward leaning too
far forward um and for for that I say it’s an exercise it’s called 20 20 20 so
every 20 minutes look 20 ft away in distance so
ideally you want to do it outside you could do it inside too if you’re looking outside the window Works look 20 feet
away for 20 seconds that works wonders for your
nearsightedness the other thing I would say is always bring the equipment to
you rather than taking yourself to the
equipment that includes your keyboard that includes your computer screen so if
you are continuously really leaning forward to get a better look pull the
monitors close to you in and um third invest in a bigger
screen that I say like go as big as you can go you know how people buy TVs big
TVs to watch games same concept I mean I would project my computer on a TV if it
was practical to do that but you know go big with your screen then you are
removing that leaning over leaning forward um easily so those are the three
tips for you know somebody who is nearsighted or is having issues um with
getting a better look at the screen now as far as um focus it’s not your fault I
say this all the time in my corporate trainings and to my clients it’s not
your fault really important yeah we are in a silent battle with our
devices where they are fighting for our attention and they’re slowly draining
us this modern hunched over spinal alignment that we are are commonly seeing now like the forward head rounded
shoulders excessive arch in the lower back that is because we have really
moved away from um you know manual labor
we’re not changing our positions we are not in touch with the nature anymore we
are literally losing connection with our bodies not being mindful of how we
feel and what that that’s doing to us like in general if you see it’s making
us anxious that’s it but it’s not your
fault it’s the way the this system and Technology Works however I always say
like we as human beings like we are amazing you know machines we are amazing
creatures and we know that we have to take care of our health
we should be able to prioritize our health and embrace technology because
you know it does wonderful things for us like it has really made us productive um
there are so many things awesome things that are happening because of technology in our world but embrace it while taking
care of yourself while respecting your body
while being Mindful and one of the easiest ways to
do that is to take breaks
often and when you take that break um for example I suggest to my clients take
a five minute break every 30 minutes and that’s what the evidence shows us that
if you take a five minute break every 30 minutes not only are you more productive
but you’re more mindful of your body you’re more you’re more
energized you are more in alignment with what you stand
for you are in alignment with your purpose and if 30 you know every 30
minutes it’s too much I say okay F find a Cadence that works for you maybe it’s every hour maybe it’s every two hours
but step away step away and one of the
exercises I always give in the break that people take the technology break is
meditation and a lot of people are not used of meditating so I tell them okay just find
a quiet space and focus on your breathing for five to six breathing
Cycles that’s all I ask of you and a lot of times my clients would
come back to me telling me how better they they feel they’re not tense at the end of the
long day you know because one of the concerns that keeps coming up is oh my I
have stiff muscles at the end of my workday I literally like when I get off of my computer chair I can’t I can’t
move it hurts every part hurts every joint hurts and as an exercise
physiologist like I could tell them okay why well you you’re not working out you’re not doing this but I’m like no
you’re not mind fall you’re losing that connection with
your body because if you had that strong connection with your body you would take
breaks more often so let’s reestablish that connection and the easiest way to do it
is to start small maybe 5 minutes is a lot to ask of
you maybe you can do it for 2 minutes today and then build up from
there and when you meditate and when you breathe because breathing is a huge
aspect of having an UNH hunched and proper upright posture practicing
posture um so when you’re breathing make sure you’re really expanding your
diaphragm I get like to give this visual to my clients that you know imagine that
you are taking the breath in inhaling through your nostrils and filling your belly like a balloon so everybody has
probably seen or done it themselves like blown into a balloon so you’re blowing into a balloon really expand that
diaphragm so that it massages your vagus nerve right it really activates your
vagus nerve and then as you exhale let that navl drop to
spine so you’re deflating that balloon again we are activating that vagus nerve
now vagus nerve is your cranial nerve which starts at at the bottom at the
base of your um Cranium and then it has endings throughout our body but most of
the endings are underneath the diaphragm and when we are sitting in a
hun over position this is this is the biggest whammy that the H over posture
does to our bodies and our brains and our mindfulness is that the vagus nerve
doesn’t get activated when we are crch over why because your diaphragm is compressed it can’t fully
expand so it drops our lung capacity by 30% this is what we see in research
studies and evidence-based um work that I have done myself and uh the research I
have read so it drops that lung capacity to by 30% now what does that mean for
you that means you’re taking in 30% less oxygen with with each breath
cycle and second you’re not activating that vagus nerve now the vagus nerve
when it gets activated and massaged by the diaphragm it goes to your brain and
it um it has access to your brain’s Zen room I like to call it but that system
is called parasympathetic nervous system so it calms you down you know these devices they’re
putting us into this fear state and the way we work and this posture that we practice it puts you in that the state
of heighten fear but when you take full deep breaths when you take that break
when you meditate when you take deep diaphragmatic breaths guess what it goes
to the opposite side of your brain which is your parasympathetic nervous system which is your calming Center of your
body and brain and it calms you down so there is your connection
connection between posture and meditation because you’re
able to breathe better you’re connected you’re connected to your
body such good points here and so well spoken um with such good energy behind
the words to to Really drive home the importance of this in helpful and practical ways here let’s go back to
where we started here the eyesight um for nearsightedness and this of course
this only applies to a small amount of people but they some you know I quit reading a lot because I think I read too
much and that’s contributed to near side in this but what about I was wondering about um and you can answer this later
maybe but you know um so if we have a computer up here I level then I’m my
hands are up here and then so I guess it helps to get a monitor and then H
external keyboard if you’re going to be and have that lower because you know this laptop thing
um but I think I answered my own question there but this is really important for the meditative link on
this and as far as getting tensed up around this it’s really a thing it’s
really something how you talk about priority and it whatever reason I just
get sucked in and I think this is whatever is on the screen is more important than anything else now I get
the benefit of really being focused and kind of concentrated and really getting
absorbed into our work but it depends what that is and how helpful that is in
a way and I would say though a check would be if I’m disconnected from the body like you put so well and it’s so
easy for me to connect in meditation to the body and and I don’t need as many
deep breaths because I’m there fully present you know and in deep meditative States we don’t need as much much oxygen
and the awareness is there and the space is created for you know kindness and healing to the body but when I’m
interacting with this machine constantly that’s that for whatever reason I’m
prioritizing that over even remembering I have a body like a head on Wheels you know or a head with a mouse and a
keyboard basically then you know all that goes out the window and so now the
practicality I like this notion of um when we’re interacting or when let’s just say I’m interacting with a device
of these deeper breaths you know that that really activate the N Vegas nerve
and I find that very helpful and it’s um do you recommend timers to putting a
timer on for these breaks because I mean I don’t keep track of time a lot of times when I’m online uh in when I don’t
have any other commitments anyway um if I’m really getting into a project um and
then the other thing I’ll say though before this well let’s just do that and then I’ll talk about my own posture um
and meditation but we’re talk about the Practical side of this technology thing
here yeah know I would love to hear about uh your posture too so yeah with
the screen you just answered your question it’s about especially for someone like you who is nearsighted and
a lot of my clients are just like you like in the same boat I suggest buy an
external Monitor and go as big as your space would allow because the bigger the screen the less the
strain on your eyes um and then with the keyboard yes I have like a sliding
keyboard um what would you call it um attachment underneath my desk so it
pulls out it pulls the keyboard out to me um again I’m not reaching for the keyboard and rounding my shoulders and
overextending my arms I’m trying to keep that soft Bend in my elbows so the keyboard just slides out to me U so
those are two pieces of equipment they’re not as expensive anymore too
with with the advancement in technology the technology is becoming really cheap
which is a good thing so invest I say I say to people like if you could invest in one thing one or two things it would
be that and then um for the standing desk too A lot of times people are like oh those are really expensive yes
they’re still expensive if you’re going for the hydraulic version but there are
um sit to stand desk attachments attachments that you can buy they’re readily available everywhere and when
you do again super cheap but that’s one investment I would make with for my
better posture so let’s um talk a little bit more about breathing
so we start with deep breathing because
people are we are not aware of our uh breath Cycles anymore because we’re just
not in touch with our bodies anymore um so in many ways I call it
deep because I think it resonates more with desk bound professionals but it’s
actually slower breathing just like you mentioned because when you’re in meditative meditative State you actually
want to breathe less right um and slow it down so when you take full breath
you’re actually slowing down your breathing rate and the more you do it the slower
it gets because now your parasympathetic nervous system is
active and it’s going to regulate your breathing and make it even
slower so that’s that transcendal state that we actually can go into uh if you
practice meditation for a while so that’s the connection but I
want to really emphasize what’s happening on the other end because I think if we don’t understand what we are
doing with the hunched over posture we kind of are not motivated to take any
step to correct it and that is that hunched over posture puts us in a
heighten state of fear and also the work we do does that
too because all the projects and the deadlines that we have they stress us
out so you have high stress levels
now when we have high stress levels what we see is that our body tends to just
hunch over hunch forward naturally because your brain has the second part
of the brain um our autonomic nervous system which is the sympathetic nervous system system that becomes more active
when we are stressed out or hyperfocused as I would like to call at our
work and that determines if we are
confident or we are anxious so we can be
confident and literally like killing it at every project and being super
productive or we can live in a state of fear and most of the people are choosing
the latter at this time because they’re not aware again it has to do with the awareness because they are not
aware and what is happening literally with our physiology is that when we are sitting
and standing in a slouched position couple of hormones that we take
a look at they get altered and the first hormone that gets altered is our
cortisol so our cortisol goes High the cortisol levels Go real high in
our bloodstream when we have that hunched over posture plus the stress of
the work because the posture comes with the stress right because you’re super hyperfocused you’re not really um aware
of your body you’re like okay I just need to get this done the deadline is coming up I haven’t been able to push
out like three podcast episodes that I was supposed to do this week let’s just you know nose to the ground and get it
done right okay so both the things what’s happening is our brain is creating this imaginary threat it’s
activating our hyper Vigilant system and our cortisol levels are rising because of it second not only the cortisol but
the testosterone drops down so cortisol and testostrone they
both work in complement to each other so when your cortisol goes High your
testosterone drops down now testosterone is your power or confidence hormone
hormone and it’s present in everybody like male female bodies both bodies have
it and the effects are the same for both so when that’s happening you are just
going to stay in that cycle in that fight ORF flight mode in that fear cycle
now when you open your body open your posture what we see is that your confidence um I’m sorry cortisol goes
drops low and testosterone um becomes higher and what we see is just
practicing better posture open expansive posture where you’re really opening your heart chakra we see that the uh
testosterone can rise up to 25% in our bloodstream two minutes of open
expansive posture that’s all it takes so this is what’s happening within
your body when when you’re practicing hunched over posture and um evidence also shows that
we when we are in a hunched over posture again because it’s disrupting our energy
flow we are more focused on negative thoughts so you’re going to keep on
thinking that you will not be able to push out those three podcast episodes you will have
self-doubt however if you have an open expansive posture again it has to do everything with the flow of energy with
how grounded you are with how centered you are and how connected you are with your body once you are
there you you will have the focus that you need while taking breaks while being
able to slow down your breathing while being connected with your inner calming
system the Zen room the parasympathetic
system that’s what it is very cool did now I would say it’s just maybe I’m I’m
completely off here but I would say what you just walked us through is great for like the corporate world I think it
applies more to to people in the corporate Sphere for me I really don’t have any deadlines I get to choose my
schedule who I take on the only kind of thing I have to do is show up on time
and be there for the interview on this aspect of the work you know uh but for
me I feel since I set my own schedules in my own thing and then it’s a greed I
I want to do more of this I want to be more efficient I want to get this done in this amount of time even though I
don’t have to so I push myself and push myself to because I I’ll just be so
efficient here I’ll get this done and then I’ll have this other time to either usually it’s just more right just did
more things off my list like a Capricorn right it and so I think that comes into
it for me and then I I I prioritize that work over my body and then I don’t
realize it until in retrospect what are you doing to your your your body is it really that important that I have to do
this okay and now the the hunched over um posture um and maybe you might have
some feedback for that but I want to go into the hunched over posture I know when I first started meditating now I
get all kinds of good compliments you know how do you sit like that because I have done yoga and I can cross my legs
in uh interesting ways like the fire log way and you know like that or the crisscross backwards way and or half
Lotus these type of things when I’m I was sitting when I was at a monastery for a little bit and then people turn it
into a competition oh I’m not good enough I wish I could do that how do you do you know and so that’s a whole
another thing but when I first started I didn’t even know I was getting a couch cushion putting it on the floor and
sitting on it and that just automatically makes me hunch even more because you know the I didn’t have a
cushion under my rear like you’re supposed to do and so the hips are supposed to be higher than the knees and
then that accentuates the natural support you know but early on in my
journey that was just a lot of my practice was just UNH hunching and then I would lose track of my meditation
object and then I would slowly wake up to the fact that I was hunching over and then I would reconnect my posture and
sometimes that would be the the focus of my entire meditation was just my posture and I was diagnosed with what’s called
scoliosis way back in grade school which is a slight curvature of the spine but
through yoga and meditation over years and I’ve even talked to someone that’s been a guest on my um on my podcast she
has the x-rays to prove how her spine actually aligned more but what I noticed
a lot when I got to kind of the heart opening phase um and and for those that
are hunched I will say in your defense a lot of times it’s this protection mode of the heart you know because I was in a
lot of pain you know emotional kind of mental um psychological pain and it was
almost like that was a protecting you know because uh it will the shoulders
coming forward will even kind of protect even the chest but then when I had enough courage to you know actually sit
there and weep sometimes because of the the the things I had forgotten about the psychological splitting when things got
too hard you know and I just kept going forward all that caught back up with me and so as these these memories came up
to be seen and cleared and healed and the the the tears watered the heart and
helped you know water the heart then then yes it can be physically painful I
mean I even had some some pain at the chest and I thought maybe I was having a heart attack or something but it was
actually um just kind of my my heart opening and going through this pain and healing these emotional wounds these
these psychological wounds and then it seemed like as these things released
like there was a physiological correspondence to this release and then the shoulders kind of
the the shoulders started dropping and starting going back more the spine was more erect but at the same time it was
relaxed and easy and um for those who meditate can feel the energy flow too
when we are hunched over you know you can notice the breath and the energy not flowing as well but when the when the
body is you know there there’s a correspondence between our thought and our emotions and our body body our
experience uh what’s going on in the mind often has a physiological
correspondence same way emotionally and these can be tuned in and when we correct one the it will have an or
change one it will have an effect on the other one thing changes the other um and
so yeah I just wanted to kind of validate that from my own experience the energy flow and um yeah and the ease
that can come and so we’re B balancing energizing factors with calming factors
too um the calming ones of the Tranquility the um gathered mind the
unification of mind you know and even equinity balanced with like energy and
joy and sometimes investigation when we’re looking into things so and then of course mindfulness keeps these imbalance
these are the seven factors of Awakening it’s traditionally known in some of the the Buddhist teachings all right I think
I put enough on the plate here um yeah Soh what would you say to some of
this yeah I mean all of this that you shared is so important and just like you
said it’s validating and it’s it’s something that our audience can listen
to and say okay I understand I now I understand um so I’m going to take it
backwards because uh the way you explain that when you started practicing yoga um
you could at first you you were just working to open up your heart because
there was so much there were so many emotions stored inside you that you
weren’t aware of and then they started coming out and
you started becoming this whole Yos a whole Josh right not not somebody who
was trying to protect himself the whole time right you could show yourself to
the world and that is where the intersection
of Science and um the ayurvedic World lies
right we are embodiment of our emotions so we embody our
emotions the way we hold our bodies is a manifestation of what we
have inside our heart right
so sooner than later I always say to my clients and
everybody you know start respecting your body whatever that looks like maybe you
can Embrace yoga practice maybe you can’t it’s totally up to you we are all
unique we are all different perfectly fine but can you take a movement break
during your workday can you be more mobile can you start practicing some
sort of stretching where you’re lengthening your body you’re opening your chest because physiologically when
we look at our body the reason we have this hunched over posture is because we over time we develop muscle imbalances
muscularly our heart needs the support of the back muscles to stay
open so how do you get there that’s up to you you CH choose your journey maybe
that is through meditation and yoga I’m a yoga instructor too certified yoga instructor so that’s the route I
chose but maybe that journey is not for you and you choose what that looks like
does that look like 15 minutes of stretching at the end of the day yeah does does that look like just
practicing slow breathing at in at the start of your
workday yeah perfectly fine whatever that is to you that process looks to you
embrace it because you want to undo those muscle imbalances really
strengthen the back of your body open your chest so that you’re not collapsing
and bending forward all the time because physically bending at the
heart center and solar plexes means that you have deep emotional pain stored in
your solar plexes right and our protective instincts are going to keep on kicking
in and they’re going to keep you right here in a hunch over
position so slowly slowly and
gradually you have to start opening up you have to let go of the fear anger
sadness those we call them the lions that are guarding the gate to the heart right you have to let go of
those and you have to surrender to This Mother Earth whatever way or form that
looks like find that connection with nature maybe that looks like a couple of
miles of hike or walk outside in the on a trail outside your home or wherever
you feel whole wherever you feel fulfilled that that is your practice to
open up talking about scoliosis I am so glad you brought it up
I had sciatic pain that’s how I started in this exercise industry because before
this I was working as a software engineer in a corporate world yep yep it’s a 360 degree pivot for me um but
but I love it I just love doing what I’m doing now um and so it can be cured
cured to the point that it doesn’t hurt you anymore it doesn’t manifest
physically for you right so you don’t have symptoms um I still have I mean I
still have sciatic I mean I’m at a higher risk of lower back pain but with all the yoga practice and the learning I
have through exercise physiology and my work I take care of my body right I take
care of my muscular system and I keep my heart chakra open and the rest of my
body open hips too hips are also where restore emotions so you want to really take care of your hips too um so it
doesn’t show up so I I can completely see that you know the x-rays if they
don’t show scoliosis sign of scol iosis or it’s much milder than before it’s
possible and that is a testament to you know the practice of yoga or practice of
stretching or practice of just taking care of yourself now one of the things that you
mentioned was that you are setting your schedule yourself uh but you feel this um desire
to do more right right so one of the things that I like to bring up in my
work is also that we are becoming like too mental like we are really living in
our heads and I think that has more to do with that so if we just understood
that less is more if you respect your body you’ll be able to go farther
because we are always in this as entrepreneurs we are in this long game
right right it’s not it’s not a shortterm thing that you know it’s not a Sprint it’s a
marathon right so we are not if we are not operating from our
heart right that’s where we run into issues
like those where the self-doubt comes it’s a form of self-doubt that you you
have that desire to do more and I’ve been there I’ve been there I I still fall back into it periodically I do um
and sometimes a coach or myself you know I have to catch myself like stop
stop because you have to practice self-care for that long road or
else you’re not going to make it right so the deadlines it’s it it
depends they’re imposed by your employer or they they’re imposed by you yeah so
both the reason in both cases I always say because you’re in your
head lead for your heart absolutely I couldn’t agree more that uh it is and
we’re just we’re kind of conditioned that way too you know there isn’t as much value and emphasis in the Western
World on the heart and the body it’s what can you churn out with the mind to make money basically or to add value and
there’s nothing wrong with money or adding value but where is the heart like you say where is the body you know this
is um the these are often overlooked and just not we’re not conditioned to Value
these and I love this word respect especially for the masculine you know honor and respect for the masculine and
and I love how it’s turned around to where the the body is usually considered a more feminine aspect but yeah do we
respect our own bodies do we honor our own bodies really important reminder
here and uh as far as these these guards to the heart yeah I couldn’t Echo that
enough either that this is this is self-care you know whatever that looks like for you we can be kind and
compassionate to ourselves when we’re when this is a training too it’s not something a lot of times we can just
flick a switch and have it happen you know sometimes it takes extra time and help sometimes it’s a lifelong journey
and that’s okay we start where we are and we uh and we go from there you know uh it it’s I don’t really know how to
overemphasize the importance of it I mean even the the heart energies will fuel that’s the kind of fuel we want for
every everything in our lives and our mind will become more expansive the perceptional field will open up more
higher levels of awareness just everything in life is better and if we’re operating from a lower place in
the heart where energy comes from you know bodily energies then we’re not going to have the same access and and
benefits of of of heart energy and I need reminding of this again and again and again that they connect with the
heart and lead with the heart it’s really just so wonderful to um to hear these
and I love your you have like an embodied voice so your your voice when you when you speak I it comes not only
from the heart but it seems like the whole entire body you know and your your
Cadence and your your your pauses and your timing and your emphasis and energy
put behind the words I I’m um I’m really grateful to have that as an example um
in my own work um to to to see and hear that and experience your voice so thank
you so much for for sharing all this today um I guess as we start to to wind
down would you like to tell folks about how they can get in touch with you your
website any uh books you have if you have events uh courses anything you
would want to draw people’s attention to be it’s your own work someone else’s and then would you like to leave uh the
audience with today yeah so thank you it it’s been
such a pleasure really talking to you about this because I don’t get to talk
about the intersection of the science and ayurva as often so I I was super
excited about this uh podcast interview and thank you so much for having me it’s been a pleasure really talking to you um
so as far as finding me I’m very active on LinkedIn my LinkedIn handle is Aisha
Tahir and then same thing on the web aishat here.com you can find me there
are bunch of freebies you can find out about my book on posher over there too
so everything is like it’s that’s like my One-Stop shop kind of thing so you can just go and explore that and spell
your name spell your name for people please uh for those who are just listening yeah sure sure that’s a great
um thank you thanks for bringing my awareness to that it’s Aisha here.com a
e s h a and then t a h iir one
word.com same thing on LinkedIn just plug in my name aishah here.com Aisha
Tahir and you’ll find me um so one tip I want to leave your audience with and
your listeners with is to really focus on their hearts and and
getting out of the head because that would establish a
deeper connection with your body and all it takes is one small step
a day you can start with two minutes a day that’s
it and the more you get aligned and the more you start
being becoming aware of your inside emotions in of who you are what you
stand for where you want to go from here you can expand that practice from 2
minutes to 4 4 to six 6 to8 and it it’s
a process it’s a process so don’t expect to for it to happen overnight but start
start somewhere that’s it that’s all it takes to be UNH
hunched well beautiful Naisha so may all beings everywhere experience optimal um
posture and all the the the beautiful Optimal Health um everywhere and so may
all beings everywhere come to know their true nature realize Awakening and be
free bye now and
Integrating Presence 